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I don't want to have to pay more for durable products. Please let me choose whether I want to buy extended warranty -- many manufacturers already offer it, but

by runeks 9y ago

I don't want to have to pay more for durable products. Please let me choose whether I want to buy extended warranty -- many manufacturers already offer it, but I'm not interested it in.

simion314 9y ago
I know that most people change their phones often but there are products that are expensive like washing machine, gas heaters that should be designed from the start to last 5 years or more. If 2 companies build washing machines and they need to increase the warranty time, the one that can do that with less price increase would sell more, the one that planned them to break down faster would lose and have to make a new dessign.
- runeks 9y ago
  Why don't you just pay for the 5 year warranty if you want it, instead of wanting to make it mandatory that everyone pay?
  - ksk 9y ago
    The warranty doesn't make the product durable. Its just allows you to re-buy the same non-durable product using resources from a shared pool. This is about addressing the fundamental problem.
  - simion314 9y ago
    Would you buy a car if the seller gives 1 month warranty? My opinion is that expensive products should have longer warranty by default. For cheaper products current 2 years is fine.
simion314 9y ago
I know that most people change their phones often but there are products that are expensive like washing machine, gas heaters that should be designed from the start to last 5 years or more. If 2 companies build washing machines and they need to increase the warranty time, the one that can do that with less price increase would sell more, the one that planned them to break down faster would lose and have to make a new dessign.
ksk 9y ago
But extended warranty is just insurance, nothing to do with the product being durable or not. I don't buy the argument that costs will skyrocket. Most manufacturers, won't give a lot of thought to making their products more durable while keeping the costs down, unless pressured, either by consumers, or the government. They're more focused on making money (rightfully so). The incentive to keep making money because their products break often causing people to re-buy, must be removed IMHO.

by runeks 9y ago

I don't want to have to pay more for durable products. Please let me choose whether I want to buy extended warranty -- many manufacturers already offer it, but I'm not interested it in.

simion314 9y ago

I know that most people change their phones often but there are products that are expensive like washing machine, gas heaters that should be designed from the start to last 5 years or more. If 2 companies build washing machines and they need to increase the warranty time, the one that can do that with less price increase would sell more, the one that planned them to break down faster would lose and have to make a new dessign.

runeks 9y ago
Why don't you just pay for the 5 year warranty if you want it, instead of wanting to make it mandatory that everyone pay?
- ksk 9y ago
  The warranty doesn't make the product durable. Its just allows you to re-buy the same non-durable product using resources from a shared pool. This is about addressing the fundamental problem.
- simion314 9y ago
  Would you buy a car if the seller gives 1 month warranty? My opinion is that expensive products should have longer warranty by default. For cheaper products current 2 years is fine.

simion314 9y ago

ksk 9y ago

But extended warranty is just insurance, nothing to do with the product being durable or not. I don't buy the argument that costs will skyrocket. Most manufacturers, won't give a lot of thought to making their products more durable while keeping the costs down, unless pressured, either by consumers, or the government. They're more focused on making money (rightfully so). The incentive to keep making money because their products break often causing people to re-buy, must be removed IMHO.