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I don’t want your ‘exclusively for women’ support groups I want inclusivity, not exclusivity. You’re victimising me when you do that. You’re indicating that i

I don’t want your ‘exclusively for women’ support groups I want inclusivity, not exclusivity. You’re victimising me when you do that. You’re indicating that it’s most likely I need special, extra support. Just because I’m female. You’re also indicating that “this is a women’s problem, best solved by women” but that deepens the divide, creating an “us” and a “them”. Just based on gender… This is the core point for me. Indeed, the problem exists, and it needs to be solved by men, not women. Women generally are already doing the best they can - even the ones that want to not care and just go about their work - they feel obliged to write blog posts like this one. We men must make the changes that make women feel more welcome at the workplace. One easy to way to start (courtesy of a friend of mine) is to go up to a female colleague and ask for 1 thing that can make the company more inclusive, then do that without judging. (i suspect the same holds for other minorities in tech, but this thread is about gender)

stephengillie 9y ago
It's as though the safe space that protects one person is the hostile environment which harasses another person. One's heaven is another's hell, to put it colloquially.
Cakez0r 9y ago
> We men must make the changes that make women feel more welcome at the workplace. One easy to way to start (courtesy of a friend of mine) is to go up to a female colleague and ask for 1 thing that can make the company more inclusive, then do that without judging. This is exactly the kind of behavior that the author is speaking out against. > It’s hurtful when you say “we need to solve the problem of women in tech” and “Maria, you’re a woman in tech” in the same breath… My take away from this post is that Maria is hired as a software developer and would like to get on with software development. Not be a champion of diversity just because she is a woman. > Maybe I’m representative, maybe I’m not, but don’t ask me to represent! > You’re also indicating that “this is a women’s problem, best solved by women” but that deepens the divide, creating an “us” and a “them”.

stephengillie 9y ago

It's as though the safe space that protects one person is the hostile environment which harasses another person. One's heaven is another's hell, to put it colloquially.

Cakez0r 9y ago

> We men must make the changes that make women feel more welcome at the workplace. One easy to way to start (courtesy of a friend of mine) is to go up to a female colleague and ask for 1 thing that can make the company more inclusive, then do that without judging. This is exactly the kind of behavior that the author is speaking out against. > It’s hurtful when you say “we need to solve the problem of women in tech” and “Maria, you’re a woman in tech” in the same breath… My take away from this post is that Maria is hired as a software developer and would like to get on with software development. Not be a champion of diversity just because she is a woman. > Maybe I’m representative, maybe I’m not, but don’t ask me to represent! > You’re also indicating that “this is a women’s problem, best solved by women” but that deepens the divide, creating an “us” and a “them”.