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> Some people want these differences to be highlighted Those people are political activists.

by fche 9y ago

dang 9y ago
That's definitely not always true and probably not in the majority case either. Please don't escalate a discussion like this straight into political battle—we want interesting, thoughtful conversation here and the two aren't compatible. We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14702833 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14702833 and marked it off-topic.
- teacup50 9y ago
  > That's definitely not always true and probably not in the majority case either. I don't know what you're talking about; it's an inherently political position rooted in coherent ideology.
- peterwwillis 9y ago
  I think the decision to detach the comment was overzealous. A reply to that comment on that thread would have been a great opportunity to provide an informed opposing view, and now it'll be stuck down in the cheap seats where people involved in the original discussion won't benefit. The idea of a political activist isn't divisive, it's a core feature of all politics. Every single person engaged in politics does so to bring attention to their issue. Of course, not everyone who highlights a difference in some political sphere is an activist per-se, and marking the distinction may be useful to help understand a potential bias over a politically divisive issue. I understand that you're trying to serve the will of your HN overlords, but can you please ask them to not require you to micro-moderate sociopolitical posts? Downvotes and replies from peers with power provide more positive guidance for group behavior than sending "spicy" comments to the back of the bus.
  - dang 9y ago
    Maybe it was a notch too much. Moderation is guesswork. Fortunately there's plenty of opportunity for people to substantively discuss that aspect and many others. Re your last paragraph: neither HN, nor HN moderation, nor the organization that runs HN, work the way you describe. Just to pick a couple examples, the threads are sensitive to initial conditions, and no one at YC has told me how to moderate. HN users more than make up for it though!
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> Some people want these differences to be highlighted Those people are political activists.

by fche 9y ago

> Some people want these differences to be highlighted Those people are political activists.

dang 9y ago

That's definitely not always true and probably not in the majority case either. Please don't escalate a discussion like this straight into political battle—we want interesting, thoughtful conversation here and the two aren't compatible. We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14702833 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14702833 and marked it off-topic.

teacup50 9y ago
> That's definitely not always true and probably not in the majority case either. I don't know what you're talking about; it's an inherently political position rooted in coherent ideology.
peterwwillis 9y ago
I think the decision to detach the comment was overzealous. A reply to that comment on that thread would have been a great opportunity to provide an informed opposing view, and now it'll be stuck down in the cheap seats where people involved in the original discussion won't benefit. The idea of a political activist isn't divisive, it's a core feature of all politics. Every single person engaged in politics does so to bring attention to their issue. Of course, not everyone who highlights a difference in some political sphere is an activist per-se, and marking the distinction may be useful to help understand a potential bias over a politically divisive issue. I understand that you're trying to serve the will of your HN overlords, but can you please ask them to not require you to micro-moderate sociopolitical posts? Downvotes and replies from peers with power provide more positive guidance for group behavior than sending "spicy" comments to the back of the bus.
- dang 9y ago
  Maybe it was a notch too much. Moderation is guesswork. Fortunately there's plenty of opportunity for people to substantively discuss that aspect and many others. Re your last paragraph: neither HN, nor HN moderation, nor the organization that runs HN, work the way you describe. Just to pick a couple examples, the threads are sensitive to initial conditions, and no one at YC has told me how to moderate. HN users more than make up for it though!

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