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yeah exactly. also you didn't need a freedom of information act to know this. I remember generals / DOD officials talking about it in a TV interviews (1996 i

yeah exactly. also you didn't need a freedom of information act to know this. I remember generals / DOD officials talking about it in a TV interviews (1996 independence day, 2007 transformers). directors are overly focused on realism for better or for worse, so a lot also goes to providing stock footage for inspiration, advice, and fact checking like 'is this aircraft meant for the role its portrayed in the movie'. etc. and as they said openly in the interviews: they often do it for free, but if they dont like the content they will pull out.

protomyth 9y ago
To give a source: Watch some of the behind the scenes on The Stargate TV series for a practical primer on what the Air Force required. It surely wasn't some requirement that everyone in the AF was a saint.
- tnecniv 9y ago
  Yeah, traitors in both civilian and military leadership as well as just plain red tape were pretty common plot elements in that show. That's a show I should watch again.
neurotech1 9y ago
In Top Gun (1986) the studio reimbursed the US Navy for flight time during filming. $7,800/Hr for the F-14 in 1986. The tech advisor was recently retired Radm. Pete "Viper" Pettigrew, a TOPGUN instructor who shot down a MiG over Vietnam. He was paid for his technical advisor role by the studio. One key change at the Navy's request is Maverick dating a civilian instructor, not a women in the Navy, as that is against Navy regs. In Independence Day (1996) The Pentagon withdrew support over references to "Area 51", the location of the USAF Flight Test Center (Detachment 3) that officially didn't exist. Decisions regarding Pentagon support for movies are sometimes made by the Secretary of Defense, personally. If he doesn't like it, they withdraw support.
- compuguy 9y ago
  Independence Day was released in 1996, not 1986.
  - neurotech1 9y ago
    Thanks. Fixed the typo.
fixermark 9y ago
Speaking of Bay specifically: Bay is very pro-military and goes out of his way to portray the US military in a positive light. Observe the scene from Battleship where Lt. Col. Gregory Gadson, the director of the U.S. Army's Wounded Warrior Program, was cast to play a double-amputee soldier who, among other things, fist-fights an alien. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMX3v6exVf8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMX3v6exVf8
- nerfhammer 9y ago
  Michael Bay wasn't involved with Battleship, though it has been pointed out that it seems to be an imitation of his style
  - fixermark 9y ago
    Wow, major egg on my face; thank you for the clarification! I've actually been operating under the mistaken belief that Bay directed that movie. It feels incredibly Bay.
- youdontknowtho 9y ago
  For some reason I just re-watched the first two transformers movies. (I don't know. They were still bad, but I like robots.) The funny thing is that he is not only pro-military, he's anti-government. It's not just that the military has to be seen in a good light, other government people have to also be seen as bad.

protomyth 9y ago

To give a source: Watch some of the behind the scenes on The Stargate TV series for a practical primer on what the Air Force required. It surely wasn't some requirement that everyone in the AF was a saint.

tnecniv 9y ago
Yeah, traitors in both civilian and military leadership as well as just plain red tape were pretty common plot elements in that show. That's a show I should watch again.

neurotech1 9y ago

In Top Gun (1986) the studio reimbursed the US Navy for flight time during filming. $7,800/Hr for the F-14 in 1986. The tech advisor was recently retired Radm. Pete "Viper" Pettigrew, a TOPGUN instructor who shot down a MiG over Vietnam. He was paid for his technical advisor role by the studio. One key change at the Navy's request is Maverick dating a civilian instructor, not a women in the Navy, as that is against Navy regs. In Independence Day (1996) The Pentagon withdrew support over references to "Area 51", the location of the USAF Flight Test Center (Detachment 3) that officially didn't exist. Decisions regarding Pentagon support for movies are sometimes made by the Secretary of Defense, personally. If he doesn't like it, they withdraw support.

compuguy 9y ago
Independence Day was released in 1996, not 1986.
- neurotech1 9y ago
  Thanks. Fixed the typo.

fixermark 9y ago

Speaking of Bay specifically: Bay is very pro-military and goes out of his way to portray the US military in a positive light. Observe the scene from Battleship where Lt. Col. Gregory Gadson, the director of the U.S. Army's Wounded Warrior Program, was cast to play a double-amputee soldier who, among other things, fist-fights an alien. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMX3v6exVf8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMX3v6exVf8

nerfhammer 9y ago
Michael Bay wasn't involved with Battleship, though it has been pointed out that it seems to be an imitation of his style
- fixermark 9y ago
  Wow, major egg on my face; thank you for the clarification! I've actually been operating under the mistaken belief that Bay directed that movie. It feels incredibly Bay.
youdontknowtho 9y ago
For some reason I just re-watched the first two transformers movies. (I don't know. They were still bad, but I like robots.) The funny thing is that he is not only pro-military, he's anti-government. It's not just that the military has to be seen in a good light, other government people have to also be seen as bad.