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Closer to the truth than you realize. The writings of both Paul Graham and Ayn Rand are successful because they clearly articulate what a large preexisting mino

by as 19y ago

Closer to the truth than you realize. The writings of both Paul Graham and Ayn Rand are successful because they clearly articulate what a large preexisting minority is already vaguely thinking, so the writing ends up becoming a rallying point for kindred minds to find each other. You can see what a powerful force this is in Rand's case, as it made her successful despite her atrocious fiction. I was reading a thread in an Objectivist forum once where someone had posted a link to an online Myers-Briggs personality test. Out of 16 types, 90% of the members were the same one: INTJ. Personality is the major determinate of philosophy. I know I enjoy reading PG's essays because it's like reading an older, more experienced version of myself.

LogicHoleFlaw 19y ago
That's an interesting observation on the correlation between the Meyers-Briggs results and the population of the Objectivist forum. I'm an INTJ myself and have the understanding that it's a fairly rare personality type. (For my part, the Objectivist viewpoint does have some appeal, but also deep flaws which keep me from embracing it.) Anyway, I think that it's inevitable that the YC society will take on a life of its own which is oriented with pg's viewpoints. His writings are very charismatic and draw like-minded individuals. Those founders who resonate strongly with the essays and concepts of pg are even more likely to apply for and be accepted to YC. Fortunately some of the mentioned aspects of the YC culture are independent thinking, self-analysis and critical analysis of others' ideas. Hopefully these attributes will prevent a simple cult of personality from developing. If YC has positive benefits for both the founders and the greater society (via the creation of Things People Want) then inculcating a culture which can accelerate the development of successful startups is an excellent achievement.
alabut 19y ago
"I know I enjoy reading PG's essays because it's like reading an older, more experienced version of myself." That's the best description of a role model or mentor I've ever read.
alabut 19y ago
"Closer to the truth than you realize." Apparently so - I wrote the initial comment based on my loose recollection of reading the book a few years ago. Looking up the big speech the Galt character gives in Atlas Shrugged, it's amazing how much of it relates. This paragraph in particular reads like it could have been pg's battle cry against soul-sucking faceless corporations that demand all of your creativity and trust none of your judgement: "While you were dragging to your sacrificial altars the men of justice, of independence, of reason, of wealth, of self-esteem — I beat you to it, I reached them first. I told them the nature of the game you were playing and the nature of that moral code of yours, which they had been too innocently generous to grasp. I showed them the way to live by another morality — mine. It is mine that they chose to follow." http://compuball.com/Inquisition/AynRand/galtspeech_pmark_broken.htm http://compuball.com/Inquisition/AynRand/galtspeech_pmark_br... For the less literary-minded, Fight Club has also been inspiration for a few of my friends in a similar way.
- troppo 19y ago
  "Looking up the big speech the Galt character gives in Atlas Shrugged, it's amazing how much of it relates. This paragraph in particular reads like it could have been pg's battle cry against soul-sucking faceless corporations..." Slurp slurp slurp. This is just more hero worship! Incidentally, Atlas Shrugged isn't any more literary-minded than Fight Club -- it's just more pretentious.
- davidw 19y ago
  I think the John Galt speech is only something that Steve Yegge could have penned, if the length is anything to go by.
  - alabut 19y ago
    The link I put up is an aggregation of the various speeches, starting with the first big one. The page doesn't do a very good job of clearly dividing between them, just with super subtle references to page numbers in the margins.
    - 19y ago
xlnt 19y ago
Why do you think personality determines one's philosophy instead of vice versa?
- as 19y ago
  Because personality is largely biological and unchanging.
  - xlnt 19y ago
    Lots of people say that, but the fact remains that no one has ever come up with an explanation of how or why genes would code for modern personalities, or with any evidence that's inconsistent with personalities being largely cultural and changeable with skill.
    - as 19y ago
      Modern personalties? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Temperaments#Historical_Development http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Temperaments#Historical_De...
      - xlnt 19y ago
        People think and act very differently than they used to.
        as 19y ago
        Largely biological, not entirely. Your philosophy or outlook can certainly have an effect on your personality, but from what I've seen different environments and ideologies just create variations on a biological theme.
        xlnt 19y ago
        You've seen themes in people. But have you seen evidence these themes are not caused by culture? Do you have an argument that they couldn't be? That it's unlikely?

by as 19y ago

LogicHoleFlaw 19y ago

That's an interesting observation on the correlation between the Meyers-Briggs results and the population of the Objectivist forum. I'm an INTJ myself and have the understanding that it's a fairly rare personality type. (For my part, the Objectivist viewpoint does have some appeal, but also deep flaws which keep me from embracing it.) Anyway, I think that it's inevitable that the YC society will take on a life of its own which is oriented with pg's viewpoints. His writings are very charismatic and draw like-minded individuals. Those founders who resonate strongly with the essays and concepts of pg are even more likely to apply for and be accepted to YC. Fortunately some of the mentioned aspects of the YC culture are independent thinking, self-analysis and critical analysis of others' ideas. Hopefully these attributes will prevent a simple cult of personality from developing. If YC has positive benefits for both the founders and the greater society (via the creation of Things People Want) then inculcating a culture which can accelerate the development of successful startups is an excellent achievement.

alabut 19y ago

"I know I enjoy reading PG's essays because it's like reading an older, more experienced version of myself." That's the best description of a role model or mentor I've ever read.

alabut 19y ago

"Closer to the truth than you realize." Apparently so - I wrote the initial comment based on my loose recollection of reading the book a few years ago. Looking up the big speech the Galt character gives in Atlas Shrugged, it's amazing how much of it relates. This paragraph in particular reads like it could have been pg's battle cry against soul-sucking faceless corporations that demand all of your creativity and trust none of your judgement: "While you were dragging to your sacrificial altars the men of justice, of independence, of reason, of wealth, of self-esteem — I beat you to it, I reached them first. I told them the nature of the game you were playing and the nature of that moral code of yours, which they had been too innocently generous to grasp. I showed them the way to live by another morality — mine. It is mine that they chose to follow." http://compuball.com/Inquisition/AynRand/galtspeech_pmark_broken.htm http://compuball.com/Inquisition/AynRand/galtspeech_pmark_br... For the less literary-minded, Fight Club has also been inspiration for a few of my friends in a similar way.

troppo 19y ago
"Looking up the big speech the Galt character gives in Atlas Shrugged, it's amazing how much of it relates. This paragraph in particular reads like it could have been pg's battle cry against soul-sucking faceless corporations..." Slurp slurp slurp. This is just more hero worship! Incidentally, Atlas Shrugged isn't any more literary-minded than Fight Club -- it's just more pretentious.
davidw 19y ago
I think the John Galt speech is only something that Steve Yegge could have penned, if the length is anything to go by.
- alabut 19y ago
  The link I put up is an aggregation of the various speeches, starting with the first big one. The page doesn't do a very good job of clearly dividing between them, just with super subtle references to page numbers in the margins.
  - 19y ago

xlnt 19y ago

Why do you think personality determines one's philosophy instead of vice versa?

as 19y ago
Because personality is largely biological and unchanging.
- xlnt 19y ago
  Lots of people say that, but the fact remains that no one has ever come up with an explanation of how or why genes would code for modern personalities, or with any evidence that's inconsistent with personalities being largely cultural and changeable with skill.
  - as 19y ago
    Modern personalties? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Temperaments#Historical_Development http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Temperaments#Historical_De...
    - xlnt 19y ago
      People think and act very differently than they used to.
      - as 19y ago
        Largely biological, not entirely. Your philosophy or outlook can certainly have an effect on your personality, but from what I've seen different environments and ideologies just create variations on a biological theme.
        xlnt 19y ago
        You've seen themes in people. But have you seen evidence these themes are not caused by culture? Do you have an argument that they couldn't be? That it's unlikely?