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there's nothing standard or reasonable about noreply. 1. I get credit card bills from no-reply@alertsp.chase.com. Does payment constitute a reply? 2. Why shou

there's nothing standard or reasonable about noreply. 1. I get credit card bills from no-reply@alertsp.chase.com. Does payment constitute a reply? 2. Why should I want to do business with a company that doesn't want to hear from me? 3. Standardization re: email address is hard to find. Plenty of sites won't accept a '+' in a gmail address, but gmail advertised that for years as a feature.

uhhhhhhh 9y ago
Well the standard and reasonable definition that has existed for longer than a decade is that no-reply implies that there is no one actually reading the emails you send. Its an indicator that its an automated system, and replying or sending emails to this address will get you no where but a black hole. The unreasonable action is giving someone 30-days to change their email, considering how integral email's are to security these days (password resets etc...) Eastlink made the mistake of allowing this, now they are forcing someone else to pay.
- concede_pluto 9y ago
  There's nothing reasonable about expecting others to read your email when you don't read theirs. All these orgs should be blackholed as abusers of the commons, little better than spammers.
  - uhhhhhhh 9y ago
    Invoices, shipping notifications, automated newsletters, automated notifications, All very reasonable uses for a no-reply email addresses, and the typical use case. Spam is a completely different story, and rarely uses no-reply emails. If you want to blackhole any information you request from companies than scratch your head why you can't find your tracking information or flight status/itinerary that's completely up to you. Ignoring the valid, reasonable and typical use cases is just absurd
macspoofing 9y ago
>there's nothing standard or reasonable about noreply. Ok, I don't disagree but that's besides the point. For better or worse, a certain kind of convention grew around 'noreply' emails.
- clort 9y ago
  yeah but after he was using it for some time.. but its like he said: he doesn't own that email address though he thought he did. I went through this a few years ago, and I got a domain instead, which I do own.
extra88 9y ago
Sub-addressing with '+' is a common (but not universal) email hosting feature that predates Gmail. What's more particular to Gmail is zero or more periods '.' being ignored so awinter-py, a.winter-py, and a.wint.er.py are all equivalent and valid on Gmail.

uhhhhhhh 9y ago

Well the standard and reasonable definition that has existed for longer than a decade is that no-reply implies that there is no one actually reading the emails you send. Its an indicator that its an automated system, and replying or sending emails to this address will get you no where but a black hole. The unreasonable action is giving someone 30-days to change their email, considering how integral email's are to security these days (password resets etc...) Eastlink made the mistake of allowing this, now they are forcing someone else to pay.

concede_pluto 9y ago
There's nothing reasonable about expecting others to read your email when you don't read theirs. All these orgs should be blackholed as abusers of the commons, little better than spammers.
- uhhhhhhh 9y ago
  Invoices, shipping notifications, automated newsletters, automated notifications, All very reasonable uses for a no-reply email addresses, and the typical use case. Spam is a completely different story, and rarely uses no-reply emails. If you want to blackhole any information you request from companies than scratch your head why you can't find your tracking information or flight status/itinerary that's completely up to you. Ignoring the valid, reasonable and typical use cases is just absurd

macspoofing 9y ago

>there's nothing standard or reasonable about noreply. Ok, I don't disagree but that's besides the point. For better or worse, a certain kind of convention grew around 'noreply' emails.

clort 9y ago
yeah but after he was using it for some time.. but its like he said: he doesn't own that email address though he thought he did. I went through this a few years ago, and I got a domain instead, which I do own.

extra88 9y ago

Sub-addressing with '+' is a common (but not universal) email hosting feature that predates Gmail. What's more particular to Gmail is zero or more periods '.' being ignored so awinter-py, a.winter-py, and a.wint.er.py are all equivalent and valid on Gmail.