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The whole food industry is based around carbs [especially here in US, where you have corn syrup even in meat]. The dietary recommendations in US are still based

by doh 9y ago

The whole food industry is based around carbs [especially here in US, where you have corn syrup even in meat]. The dietary recommendations in US are still based around eating low fat [0] instead of massively limiting carbs. However study after study shows that "keto" and IF (intermittent fasting) is probably the way to go. So now it's a pretty uphill battle. Seems like millennials are pushing for change more quickly and many massive corporations are changing directions, but slowly. So I think we will see a massive dietary change in next 20-30 years, but it's going to be a battle. [0] https://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/2015/guidelines/executive-summary/ https://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/2015/guidelines/executi...

dpark 9y ago
> especially here in US, where you have corn syrup even in meat What? > However study after study shows that "keto" and IF (intermittent fasting) is probably the way to go. Eh, I don't know about that. Some studies indicate that keto helps some people. But like every other diet, adherence is low. And for the most part, the evidence is that what most people need is to just eat a reasonable amount of something approximating real food. IF is entirely unrelated to keto. > So I think we will see a massive dietary change in next 20-30 years I'm extremely doubtful. I'm doubtful we'll even significantly cut the junk intake. I have no expectation that keto will actually become common.
- doh 9y ago
  >> especially here in US, where you have corn syrup even in meat > What? I meant meat products, like sausages, bacon, ... > And for the most part, the evidence is that what most people need is to just eat a reasonable amount of something approximating real food. I'm talking about the impact of the diet in overall, e.g. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1325029/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1325029/ > I have no expectation that keto will actually become common. I'm not talking about keto but dietary changes overall.
  - dpark 9y ago
    > I meant meat products, like sausages, bacon, ... So like everywhere else, then? Sugar in cured meats is not exclusively an American phenomenon. > I'm talking about the impact of the diet in overall, e.g. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1325029/* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1325029/* I don't really understand your point. The fact that keto helps with diabetes isn't very relevant to a lot of the population. > I'm not talking about keto but dietary changes overall.* ? The topic was about keto being "under fire".
    - doh 9y ago
      > So like everywhere else, then? Sugar in cured meats is not exclusively an American phenomenon. Not exclusively but definitely most prevalent in US > I don't really understand your point. The fact that keto helps with diabetes isn't very relevant to a lot of the population. A lot of population, like 10%? [0]. And this is just one of many. It's not only form of help but prevention. Meaning, it's much healthier for people to do keto, than anything else. > ? The topic was about keto being "under fire". And I made a comment on overall dietary change. We don't know what a long time on keto will cause, but I believe people are much more eager to experiment and see than they used to. [0] http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/ http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/

by doh 9y ago

dpark 9y ago

> especially here in US, where you have corn syrup even in meat What? > However study after study shows that "keto" and IF (intermittent fasting) is probably the way to go. Eh, I don't know about that. Some studies indicate that keto helps some people. But like every other diet, adherence is low. And for the most part, the evidence is that what most people need is to just eat a reasonable amount of something approximating real food. IF is entirely unrelated to keto. > So I think we will see a massive dietary change in next 20-30 years I'm extremely doubtful. I'm doubtful we'll even significantly cut the junk intake. I have no expectation that keto will actually become common.

doh 9y ago
>> especially here in US, where you have corn syrup even in meat > What? I meant meat products, like sausages, bacon, ... > And for the most part, the evidence is that what most people need is to just eat a reasonable amount of something approximating real food. I'm talking about the impact of the diet in overall, e.g. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1325029/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1325029/ > I have no expectation that keto will actually become common. I'm not talking about keto but dietary changes overall.
- dpark 9y ago
  > I meant meat products, like sausages, bacon, ... So like everywhere else, then? Sugar in cured meats is not exclusively an American phenomenon. > I'm talking about the impact of the diet in overall, e.g. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1325029/* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1325029/* I don't really understand your point. The fact that keto helps with diabetes isn't very relevant to a lot of the population. > I'm not talking about keto but dietary changes overall.* ? The topic was about keto being "under fire".
  - doh 9y ago
    > So like everywhere else, then? Sugar in cured meats is not exclusively an American phenomenon. Not exclusively but definitely most prevalent in US > I don't really understand your point. The fact that keto helps with diabetes isn't very relevant to a lot of the population. A lot of population, like 10%? [0]. And this is just one of many. It's not only form of help but prevention. Meaning, it's much healthier for people to do keto, than anything else. > ? The topic was about keto being "under fire". And I made a comment on overall dietary change. We don't know what a long time on keto will cause, but I believe people are much more eager to experiment and see than they used to. [0] http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/ http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/