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On this topic, it absolutely is. Whenever these threads happen, they go one way or the other. If the all-genders-equal, non-feminist side swings the discussion
by tnone 9y ago
On this topic, it absolutely is. Whenever these threads happen, they go one way or the other.
If the all-genders-equal, non-feminist side swings the discussion, the entire thread disappears off the front page, inexplicably sitting at position 500+ with no flagged indicator. The lambdaconf debacle comes to mind, but it's hardly the only example.
If the feminist, women-are-victims-side swings the discussion, the thread is left up, full of moral chastising, with a graveyard of flagged comments serving as a warning to the evil dissenters.
On this topic, HN is unquestionably biased from the top, and the pretense otherwise is laughably non-credible and deluded.
Furthermore, while meta-complaining is against the rules, this rule is again only enforced against those who question the party line, not those lamenting the amount of immoral thought on display.
The bigger message being sent is obvious though: men, don't bother apologizing for your missteps or character flaws. Forgiveness is not coming.
If a woman got drunk at a guy's house, and was being insistent upon being shown the door, throwing it in her face would be considered cold and insensitive.
- tnone 9y agoHere, let me tell you a story. It's past 3am in the big city, I'm returning from a night out. While riding up the elevator, i can't help but notice the guy I'm sharing it with is a sobbing mess. I've never seen him before, but he gets out on my floor and heads in the opposite direction. I go inside, but as I get ready for bed, someone bangs loudly and repeatedly on my door. It's the guy. I hesitate opening. He knocks some more. Worried something bad happened to him, I let him in and ask what's wrong. He's locked out. He quickly gets into a tirade, about how his girlfriend broke up with him. That's why he's drunk. He doesn't know where his keys are but probably left them at a friend's. I feel somewhat cheated for my sympathy, having assumed far worse. Instead it's just self inflicted misery. I listen for a bit but try to make it clear I'd like to go to bed. Spotting a pipe on the coffee table, he suggests we light up instead and I let him crash. I firmly decline. I decide this person is the master of their own destiny, ask them to leave, and suggest they grab a cab or bus to their friend's place. Against much protest, I get him out the door and feel immense relief. If I'd been a woman, just saying I'd felt unsafe would've sufficed. I could've just called the police about this dangerous man banging on my door. Of course, it wasn't a guy knocking. It was a girl. She was drunk out of her mind, ready to get even more wasted, and she made it clear I was the bad guy for not immediately considering her problems mine.
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- greglindahl 9y agoYou might want to check your definitions -- feminism is the belief that all genders should be treated equally.
- Banthum 9y agoIn feminism's the "motte and bailey" belief structure, that's the motte (the thing people say when challenged). It's not the bailey (the thing people actually want to say and do) though. One example of the bailey in action: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-30/bilnd-recruitment-trial-to-improve-gender-equality-failing-study/8664888 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-30/bilnd-recruitment-tria...