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I think your feedback is great. Also, I wasn't meaning to imply anyone should cut someone slack for behaving poorly while drunk. I was saying drunk people can

I think your feedback is great. Also, I wasn't meaning to imply anyone should cut someone slack for behaving poorly while drunk. I was saying drunk people can be a menace, kinda like muggers. But although I've been mugged it doesn't exactly haunt me so much as make me cautious in certain situations. But whatever maybe my whole idea was stupid. But why was my subsequent comment also flagged. And now I'm getting downvoted for pointing out that the user first flagging, and then commenting violates HN guidelines which clearly state not to do that. This feels completely out of control.

sillysaurus3 9y ago
I wouldn't read too much into it. When users see a flagged comment, they're more inclined to flag subsequent comments of the same tone. Saying that you didn't read half the reply didn't really help matters, plus it was very energetic overall. Energy tends to be met with energy in the opposite direction, which tends to spark flamewars. In general though, it's better to email hn@ycombinator.com with concerns about the site rather than comment about it. They're very responsive.
- whiddershins 9y ago
  I did email them, and I do appreciate your feedback. At this point my concern is understanding flagging criteria and your analysis of my tone was helpful. This comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14693085 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14693085 Was not in the same tone and was flagged. It was an overtly conciliatory comment. When that comment was flagged, followed by the flagging user ignoring guidelines, I stopped debating. There's a problem here that goes beyond my comments per se.
  - panic 9y ago
    FWIW, I didn't flag that particular comment (I "vouched" for it, in fact, as well as for your reply).
    - whiddershins 9y ago
      This has been a massive miscommunication then. When you wrote "that's why I flagged the comments" it didn't occur to me that you meant both the comments you were referring to: mine and khazhoux's. Instead I misinterpreted that as both of my comments. Which frustrated me because I felt my second comment was not similar to the first, and then I couldn't understand why you continued the discussion on a comment you had just flagged. Now that I see what went on, I do appreciate you sharing your view as to why you flagged the first one and think it's basically all good from my pov.
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  - pvg 9y ago
    That comment was eminently flaggable for being unrelated meta-discussion - it's mostly about you, has nothing to do with the post and is bound to generate a pointless meta-thread. The guidelines and endless moderation comments specifically ask you not to do this.
    - whiddershins 9y ago
      Fair enough.

sillysaurus3 9y ago

I wouldn't read too much into it. When users see a flagged comment, they're more inclined to flag subsequent comments of the same tone. Saying that you didn't read half the reply didn't really help matters, plus it was very energetic overall. Energy tends to be met with energy in the opposite direction, which tends to spark flamewars. In general though, it's better to email hn@ycombinator.com with concerns about the site rather than comment about it. They're very responsive.

whiddershins 9y ago
I did email them, and I do appreciate your feedback. At this point my concern is understanding flagging criteria and your analysis of my tone was helpful. This comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14693085 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14693085 Was not in the same tone and was flagged. It was an overtly conciliatory comment. When that comment was flagged, followed by the flagging user ignoring guidelines, I stopped debating. There's a problem here that goes beyond my comments per se.
- panic 9y ago
  FWIW, I didn't flag that particular comment (I "vouched" for it, in fact, as well as for your reply).
  - whiddershins 9y ago
    This has been a massive miscommunication then. When you wrote "that's why I flagged the comments" it didn't occur to me that you meant both the comments you were referring to: mine and khazhoux's. Instead I misinterpreted that as both of my comments. Which frustrated me because I felt my second comment was not similar to the first, and then I couldn't understand why you continued the discussion on a comment you had just flagged. Now that I see what went on, I do appreciate you sharing your view as to why you flagged the first one and think it's basically all good from my pov.
  - deleted 9y ago
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- pvg 9y ago
  That comment was eminently flaggable for being unrelated meta-discussion - it's mostly about you, has nothing to do with the post and is bound to generate a pointless meta-thread. The guidelines and endless moderation comments specifically ask you not to do this.
  - whiddershins 9y ago
    Fair enough.