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As someone contemplating the purchase of one, a self-driving car needs to be better than me. That's a higher bar than better than average even if it's not objec

As someone contemplating the purchase of one, a self-driving car needs to be better than me. That's a higher bar than better than average even if it's not objectively correct.

krallja 9y ago
This is only true if you are on an otherwise empty road.
tybit 9y ago
On the other hand, as a passenger on public transport, taxis and ride shares it only has to be better than (often over worked and over tired) average human drivers.
stale2002 9y ago
Do you ever use a taxi? Because if you do, you are putting your life into the hands of someone who could be a much worse driver than you. Instead of putting your life in the hands of a terrible taxi driver, would you put it in the hands of software that is on average better than a taxi driver? You are in a taxi, so you don't get to choose to drive it yourself.
- goodplay 9y ago
  Not gp, but I would personally expect a taxi driver to be better than me seeing the amount of time the diver spends on the road. The driver wouldn't be profitable otherwise. That said, I also mirror gp in that any self-driving car must be at least better than myself for me to trust it. I imagine that's a sentiment shared by many people.
  - yellow_postit 9y ago
    I agree this is the natural bar, but don't know how to reconcile it with the average person believing they are a better driver than average (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority)
  - stale2002 9y ago
    What do you mean it wouldn't be profitable? I am not paying the taxi driver money because they are a safer driver. I am paying them for the convenience, and the ability to not take a car with me. Also, taxi driver incentives are wrong. A taxi driver, even though they have lots of experience driving, have an incentive to drive very quickly and therefore dangerously.
  - stale2002 9y ago
    What do you mean it wouldn't be profitable? I am not paying the taxi driver money because they are a safer driver. I am paying them for the convenience, and the ability to not take a car with me. Also, taxi driver incentives are wrong. A taxi driver, even though they have lots of experience driving, have an incentive to drive very quickly and therefore dangerously.

As someone contemplating the purchase of one, a self-driving car needs to be better than me. That's a higher bar than better than average even if it's not objectively correct.

krallja 9y ago

This is only true if you are on an otherwise empty road.

tybit 9y ago

On the other hand, as a passenger on public transport, taxis and ride shares it only has to be better than (often over worked and over tired) average human drivers.

stale2002 9y ago

Do you ever use a taxi? Because if you do, you are putting your life into the hands of someone who could be a much worse driver than you. Instead of putting your life in the hands of a terrible taxi driver, would you put it in the hands of software that is on average better than a taxi driver? You are in a taxi, so you don't get to choose to drive it yourself.

goodplay 9y ago
Not gp, but I would personally expect a taxi driver to be better than me seeing the amount of time the diver spends on the road. The driver wouldn't be profitable otherwise. That said, I also mirror gp in that any self-driving car must be at least better than myself for me to trust it. I imagine that's a sentiment shared by many people.
- yellow_postit 9y ago
  I agree this is the natural bar, but don't know how to reconcile it with the average person believing they are a better driver than average (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority)
- stale2002 9y ago
  What do you mean it wouldn't be profitable? I am not paying the taxi driver money because they are a safer driver. I am paying them for the convenience, and the ability to not take a car with me. Also, taxi driver incentives are wrong. A taxi driver, even though they have lots of experience driving, have an incentive to drive very quickly and therefore dangerously.
- stale2002 9y ago
  What do you mean it wouldn't be profitable? I am not paying the taxi driver money because they are a safer driver. I am paying them for the convenience, and the ability to not take a car with me. Also, taxi driver incentives are wrong. A taxi driver, even though they have lots of experience driving, have an incentive to drive very quickly and therefore dangerously.