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This article is literally nothing except pando whining about being banned from ycombinator events.

sidlls 9y ago
No. While it's not necessarily something I'd put up there with Uber's treatment of its employees it definitely doesn't reflect well on Altman. It's also a (privileged, white) male bullying various women. Now, that may not indicate sexism (bullying isn't inherently sexist), but given the climate and extra scrutiny around this industry it's easy to understand how it could be interpreted as such. Also I generally think it's best to listen to women when they say that treatment seems like harassment, sexism, and so forth. It may not seem like it to a man, but so what? Given our history and current culture that doesn't mean anything.
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nailer 9y ago
Pando is trying to present action against Pando as being because Pando reveals sexism amongst VCs (which it does) rather than because it's a muckraking gossip mag (which it is too). It's possible to dislike Pando without supporting sexism and there are many reasons why one would do so.
Gargoyle 9y ago
Partially. And partially over-the-top tone. But it's also got a very troubling incident of Altman publicly stating he's got "some interesting information" on Pando, implying of course that it's negative. Without bothering to say what it is. That's a hard no-no, and should be called out as a bullshit approach whoever does it.
xenadu02 9y ago
There is certainly hyperbole in the article but there is also a good point. Why is Sam dropping smears? If he really thought there might be something worth "investigating" he would keep quiet and investigate. It's a total dick power move (and transparent bullshit) designed to undercut someone you don't like by spreading innuendo and veiled accusations without actually making the accusation. The adult thing to do is say "oops, sorry. donation to charity made" and move on with your life. That's a good deed no matter how you slice it plus good PR in general. There is no win to be had here because Sam is punching down. I'm honestly disappointed. The faux-apology just makes it worse. Much respect to you Sam, but this is childish behavior. We know it, you know it. (I say this knowing I've doubled-down and done stuff like this in the past and regretted it every time)
- nojvek 9y ago
  Sama could have ended the drama nice and quiet but he decides to play along. Pando editors are definitely unprofessional here. If they care about their integrity, I think they should apologize for raging a bit too much.
DanBC 9y ago
Here's the HN thread about that (there were probably others too): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10089360 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10089360

No. While it's not necessarily something I'd put up there with Uber's treatment of its employees it definitely doesn't reflect well on Altman. It's also a (privileged, white) male bullying various women. Now, that may not indicate sexism (bullying isn't inherently sexist), but given the climate and extra scrutiny around this industry it's easy to understand how it could be interpreted as such. Also I generally think it's best to listen to women when they say that treatment seems like harassment, sexism, and so forth. It may not seem like it to a man, but so what? Given our history and current culture that doesn't mean anything.

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nailer 9y ago

Pando is trying to present action against Pando as being because Pando reveals sexism amongst VCs (which it does) rather than because it's a muckraking gossip mag (which it is too). It's possible to dislike Pando without supporting sexism and there are many reasons why one would do so.

Gargoyle 9y ago

Partially. And partially over-the-top tone. But it's also got a very troubling incident of Altman publicly stating he's got "some interesting information" on Pando, implying of course that it's negative. Without bothering to say what it is. That's a hard no-no, and should be called out as a bullshit approach whoever does it.

xenadu02 9y ago

There is certainly hyperbole in the article but there is also a good point. Why is Sam dropping smears? If he really thought there might be something worth "investigating" he would keep quiet and investigate. It's a total dick power move (and transparent bullshit) designed to undercut someone you don't like by spreading innuendo and veiled accusations without actually making the accusation. The adult thing to do is say "oops, sorry. donation to charity made" and move on with your life. That's a good deed no matter how you slice it plus good PR in general. There is no win to be had here because Sam is punching down. I'm honestly disappointed. The faux-apology just makes it worse. Much respect to you Sam, but this is childish behavior. We know it, you know it. (I say this knowing I've doubled-down and done stuff like this in the past and regretted it every time)

nojvek 9y ago
Sama could have ended the drama nice and quiet but he decides to play along. Pando editors are definitely unprofessional here. If they care about their integrity, I think they should apologize for raging a bit too much.

DanBC 9y ago

Here's the HN thread about that (there were probably others too): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10089360 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10089360