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What could I switch to (on both Mac and PC) that would give me better video chat functionality? Edit: Just to clarify, here's what I'm looking for: 1. Free pl

by Meekro 9y ago

What could I switch to (on both Mac and PC) that would give me better video chat functionality? Edit: Just to clarify, here's what I'm looking for: 1. Free plan; available everywhere in the world (I have family outside the US). 2. Both Mac and PC clients that are actually good. 3. Video chat quality (including noise filtering and such) that matches or exceeds what Skype can do. 4. IM-like client that supports text, voice, and video chat. This disqualifies business-type solutions that are geared around groups pre-scheduling meetings. I just want to see who's online and send them an IM or video chat request.

JumpCrisscross 9y ago
Signal, Join.me, FaceTime, et cetera. I no longer accept invitations to communicate via Skype.
- sotojuan 9y ago
  appear.in has worked fine with me too.
  - lqdc13 9y ago
    Yup. Great for home but doesn't work on some networks because it's WebRTC.
- Meekro 9y ago
  FaceTime is Mac only. Join.me seems geared towards business users and pre-arranged meetings -- I want something more like an IM client where I can see who's online and ask to video chat with them. Also, join.me doesn't seem to have a free plan (only a free trial.) Signal actually looks great, but their Mac/PC client has been in beta since 2015 and isn't linked from the homepage -- I had to dig it up on their blog. Also, video chat has been in beta since March 2017. It's not clear if their beta non-phone client supports the beta video chat. Still, I'm digging their encryption. I don't mean to shit over your suggestions, I really am looking for something better. But so far, nothing seems like a clear winner.
  - mfwoods 9y ago
    > Also, video chat has been in beta since March 2017. Video chat actually came out of beta in March [0]. The beta was released in February. [0] https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal-video-calls/ https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal-video-calls/
fspacef 9y ago
For one-on-one interactions, I haven't found anything better than FaceTime on Macs.
madaxe_again 9y ago
FaceTime, if you're on mac.
- deleted 9y ago
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- faho 9y ago
  You and everyone you want to chat with.
  - davidf18 9y ago
    Use FaceTime when you can. A lot of people have iPhones and many these days now have Macs.
    - faho 9y ago
      >A lot of people have iPhones and many these days now have Macs. Not really here in Germany. iOS has about 20% of the market, Android the other 80%. macOS is at about 8%. Anecdotally, even discounting that I have neither, of the 20 or so people I'd realistically want to chat with (friends and family), two have iPhones and one has a mac. Plus: What happens when they switch? Or when I want to switch? Also, I don't really want to use multiple applications.
      - davidf18 9y ago
        Well, you can also use FaceTime with iPads. In the US, many people have the iPhones and iPads. For professionals worldwide at least in developed countries, it makes sense to use iPhones which are far, far more secure than Android platforms, especially when taking into account total cost of ownership, the monthly fee for cell service on a high quality network. In professional settings, the Mac is becoming a more popular platform, IBM is converting many Thinkpads over to Macs. Many in Europe, even the young, smoke cigarettes which are very costly with the taxes. I'd suggest for both health reasons and using money for better purposes to quit smoking cigarettes and use the money for iPhones (and Macs). A pack of Marlboros in Germany is about $8 per pack according to Wikipedia. My daily cost for being on the Verizon (top cell provider, esp in NYC) network and having Verizon yearly upgrade for latest iPhone is $5 per day. Upgrading to latest MacBook 15" Pro from recent model is about $2 to $3 per day. The Macs, iPhones, and iPads play much better together as an ecosystem.
burntcookie90 9y ago
zoom.us is what we use at Trello with 100+ people at times.
- risratorn 9y ago
  I can second that zoom.us is a very good alternative ... it's not really a chat application but for multiuser confcalls or video calls it's miles ahead of the competition like gotomeetings or skype.
Arathorn 9y ago
For the open source decentralised option: the Riot.im Matrix client (disclaimer, i work on it)
- elkos 9y ago
  I couldn't live without it. Plus there is an IRC bridge which is ideal to keep up with and participate in open source projects in Freenode.
lucideer 9y ago
I've used Jitsi a few times without issue, but not sure about mobile clients.
manveru 9y ago
I've used https://meet.jit.si/ https://meet.jit.si/ for quite some time now... nothing to install, no flash, only needs a plugin if you want to screen-share, works on all platforms. They were bought by Atlassian recently and they used it to replace the HipChat video/audio chat function. I'm not sure yet whether you can also use it with the jitsi desktop clients (https://jitsi.org/ https://jitsi.org/) seamlessly, but it'd make sense :) Just saw some news that they also enabled calling into meet.jit.si conferences by phone (https://jitsi.org/news/telephony-support-on-meet-jit-si/ https://jitsi.org/news/telephony-support-on-meet-jit-si/) so that's also a bonus point if you liked Skype.
viraptor 9y ago
Hangouts is not bad at all.
rb808 9y ago
viber is great, is popular in Europe, I dont know why more Americans dont use it.
- kofejnik 9y ago
  it's also owned by FSB
  - Propen 9y ago
    What are you talking about? It's owned by Rakuten, a Japanese company.
- pmontra 9y ago
  Whatsapp and FB Messenger are popular in Europe. Viber used to be but it is the number one messenger only in a few eastern countries now https://www.similarweb.com/blog/popular-messaging-apps-by-country https://www.similarweb.com/blog/popular-messaging-apps-by-co... I personally don't know anybody using it past early 2016. It's all Whatsapp, Messenger, Telegram (but many people don't know what it is) and Skype on the desktop. Snapchat among the kids.
lightedman 9y ago
Camfrog (minus noise filtering) does all of that, and has Mac and PC clients.
coreyoconnor 9y ago
I like the UI of Amazon Chime: https://chime.aws/ https://chime.aws/ Though it is business focused. 1. There is a free plan, but limited. 2. Android, iPhone, Mac, and PC clients that work well. Occasional notification syncing issues. That's about the worse of it. 3. I don't know; I haven't used Skype in years. Better than Lync and Polycom. 4. Yep.
chrisper 9y ago
I usually use Facebook Messenger Video Call when talking to my parents. It works okay most of the time.

by Meekro 9y ago

JumpCrisscross 9y ago

Signal, Join.me, FaceTime, et cetera. I no longer accept invitations to communicate via Skype.

sotojuan 9y ago
appear.in has worked fine with me too.
- lqdc13 9y ago
  Yup. Great for home but doesn't work on some networks because it's WebRTC.
Meekro 9y ago
FaceTime is Mac only. Join.me seems geared towards business users and pre-arranged meetings -- I want something more like an IM client where I can see who's online and ask to video chat with them. Also, join.me doesn't seem to have a free plan (only a free trial.) Signal actually looks great, but their Mac/PC client has been in beta since 2015 and isn't linked from the homepage -- I had to dig it up on their blog. Also, video chat has been in beta since March 2017. It's not clear if their beta non-phone client supports the beta video chat. Still, I'm digging their encryption. I don't mean to shit over your suggestions, I really am looking for something better. But so far, nothing seems like a clear winner.
- mfwoods 9y ago
  > Also, video chat has been in beta since March 2017. Video chat actually came out of beta in March [0]. The beta was released in February. [0] https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal-video-calls/ https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal-video-calls/

fspacef 9y ago

For one-on-one interactions, I haven't found anything better than FaceTime on Macs.

madaxe_again 9y ago

FaceTime, if you're on mac.

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faho 9y ago
You and everyone you want to chat with.
- davidf18 9y ago
  Use FaceTime when you can. A lot of people have iPhones and many these days now have Macs.
  - faho 9y ago
    >A lot of people have iPhones and many these days now have Macs. Not really here in Germany. iOS has about 20% of the market, Android the other 80%. macOS is at about 8%. Anecdotally, even discounting that I have neither, of the 20 or so people I'd realistically want to chat with (friends and family), two have iPhones and one has a mac. Plus: What happens when they switch? Or when I want to switch? Also, I don't really want to use multiple applications.
    - davidf18 9y ago
      Well, you can also use FaceTime with iPads. In the US, many people have the iPhones and iPads. For professionals worldwide at least in developed countries, it makes sense to use iPhones which are far, far more secure than Android platforms, especially when taking into account total cost of ownership, the monthly fee for cell service on a high quality network. In professional settings, the Mac is becoming a more popular platform, IBM is converting many Thinkpads over to Macs. Many in Europe, even the young, smoke cigarettes which are very costly with the taxes. I'd suggest for both health reasons and using money for better purposes to quit smoking cigarettes and use the money for iPhones (and Macs). A pack of Marlboros in Germany is about $8 per pack according to Wikipedia. My daily cost for being on the Verizon (top cell provider, esp in NYC) network and having Verizon yearly upgrade for latest iPhone is $5 per day. Upgrading to latest MacBook 15" Pro from recent model is about $2 to $3 per day. The Macs, iPhones, and iPads play much better together as an ecosystem.

burntcookie90 9y ago

zoom.us is what we use at Trello with 100+ people at times.

risratorn 9y ago
I can second that zoom.us is a very good alternative ... it's not really a chat application but for multiuser confcalls or video calls it's miles ahead of the competition like gotomeetings or skype.

Arathorn 9y ago

For the open source decentralised option: the Riot.im Matrix client (disclaimer, i work on it)

elkos 9y ago
I couldn't live without it. Plus there is an IRC bridge which is ideal to keep up with and participate in open source projects in Freenode.

lucideer 9y ago

I've used Jitsi a few times without issue, but not sure about mobile clients.

manveru 9y ago

I've used https://meet.jit.si/ https://meet.jit.si/ for quite some time now... nothing to install, no flash, only needs a plugin if you want to screen-share, works on all platforms. They were bought by Atlassian recently and they used it to replace the HipChat video/audio chat function. I'm not sure yet whether you can also use it with the jitsi desktop clients (https://jitsi.org/ https://jitsi.org/) seamlessly, but it'd make sense :) Just saw some news that they also enabled calling into meet.jit.si conferences by phone (https://jitsi.org/news/telephony-support-on-meet-jit-si/ https://jitsi.org/news/telephony-support-on-meet-jit-si/) so that's also a bonus point if you liked Skype.

viraptor 9y ago

Hangouts is not bad at all.

rb808 9y ago

viber is great, is popular in Europe, I dont know why more Americans dont use it.

kofejnik 9y ago
it's also owned by FSB
- Propen 9y ago
  What are you talking about? It's owned by Rakuten, a Japanese company.
pmontra 9y ago
Whatsapp and FB Messenger are popular in Europe. Viber used to be but it is the number one messenger only in a few eastern countries now https://www.similarweb.com/blog/popular-messaging-apps-by-country https://www.similarweb.com/blog/popular-messaging-apps-by-co... I personally don't know anybody using it past early 2016. It's all Whatsapp, Messenger, Telegram (but many people don't know what it is) and Skype on the desktop. Snapchat among the kids.

lightedman 9y ago

Camfrog (minus noise filtering) does all of that, and has Mac and PC clients.

coreyoconnor 9y ago

I like the UI of Amazon Chime: https://chime.aws/ https://chime.aws/ Though it is business focused. 1. There is a free plan, but limited. 2. Android, iPhone, Mac, and PC clients that work well. Occasional notification syncing issues. That's about the worse of it. 3. I don't know; I haven't used Skype in years. Better than Lync and Polycom. 4. Yep.

chrisper 9y ago

I usually use Facebook Messenger Video Call when talking to my parents. It works okay most of the time.