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Silicon Graphics, Craig Wright, and the Untold Story

23 points by mbgaxyz 9y ago

EthanHeilman 9y ago
This story says: >The article then mentions the above claim that SGI had no relationship with Craig Wright, and also attacks Wright’s academic credibility by stating he lied about his PhD degree – stating that Charles Sturt University never provided him with any PhD. But CoinGeek and I have already verified and confirmed that the degrees all do exist. Whereas Forbes says: > His now-wiped LinkedIn page [..] suggested he had a PhD in computer science with Sydney's Charles Sturt University (CSU). But a statement sent to FORBES today from the university said it had never handed Wright any PhD. "Mr Wright has not been awarded a PhD from CSU," the statement read. [0] Both of these statements can not be correct, right? Maybe he could he have gotten his PhD after the Forbes article? If so this article should make it clear that the early claims he did not have a PhD from CSU were correct but that this state of affairs has changed. This story also says: >CoinGeek has since received mounting evidence which in fact provide strong proofs that SGI did work closely with Craig Wright. Countless emails, records, documents, training material, reference letters, including a signed Non-Disclosure Agreement by both Chris Clarkson (formerly) of SGI, and Craig Wright. Also on hand is evidence of conference video footage of the two parties in question. However the linked article reads: >SGI says that “Cloudcroft has never been an SGI customer and SGI has no relationship with Cloudcroft CEO Craig Steven Wright.” [1] It could well be the case that Cloudcroft was not an SGI customer and that SGI has no relationship with Cloudcroft and also that Cloudcroft and SGI had communications. These are not mutually exclusive claims. [0]: Forbes: Time To Call A Hoax? Inconsistencies On 'Probable' Bitcoin Creator's PhD And Supercomputers Revealed - https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/12/11/bitcoin-creator-satoshi-craig-wright-lies-hoax/#30ec33ad6794 https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/12/11/bitco... [1]: Wired: New Clues Suggest Craig Wright, Suspected Bitcoin Creator, May Be a Hoaxer - https://www.wired.com/2015/12/new-clues-suggest-satoshi-suspect-craig-wright-may-be-a-hoaxer/ https://www.wired.com/2015/12/new-clues-suggest-satoshi-susp...
- cornchips 9y ago
  I remember this well. Never seen smearing until then. Which included advocates of bitcoin and other coins for various reasons. Happened the week of Craig's outing by the people extorting him. Here's some information class about he was teaching right until they scrubbed it: https://web.archive.org/web/20120430035605/http://www.itmasters.edu.au/WhichQualification/MasterofInformationSystemsSecurity/DigitalForensics.aspx https://web.archive.org/web/20120430035605/http://www.itmast... And another: https://archive.is/ttLth https://archive.is/ttLth This was on their youtube page: https://archive.is/gXPkX https://archive.is/gXPkX "Presented by Dr Craig Wright of Charles Sturt University and the Global Institute for Cyber Security + Research." The SGI endorsement letter existed. I have a copy, but the web version was scrubbed. The remaining evidence is in the form of a copy of press release http://archive.is/cqI6S http://archive.is/cqI6S
  - miker64 9y ago
    'Teaching a class at' and 'receiving a degree from' an institution are two very different things. Not sure what these links are trying to prove or disprove?
    - cornchips 9y ago
      Can one teach a Master class with out a Master’s degree?
      - moyix 9y ago
        Depends on the university but often yes. If Craig Wright has a PhD you should be able to find his dissertation, look up his advisor/thesis committee, see his publications in CS conferences, etc.
        mbgaxyz 9y ago
        Perhaps this is it? https://researchoutput.csu.edu.au/en/publications/the-quantification-of-information-systems-risk-a-look-at-quantita-3 https://researchoutput.csu.edu.au/en/publications/the-quanti... Wright, C. (2017). The quantification of information systems risk: A look at quantitative responses to information security issues Australia: Charles Sturt University Doctor of Philosophy
powera 9y ago
The author doth protest too much. Craig Wright is not Satoshi. He could have proved it a dozen ways, and has not done so. I neither know nor care if the rest of his resume is fabricated.
asfjklasjfkd 9y ago
If cloudcroft and the demorgan group were legit companies then why did they seemingly evaporate after these stories broke? Shouldn't the matter have been handled professionally by a PR rep for the company? Surely they must have had customers to support and significant assets to support a 2 year old supercomputing company and 9 other ventures. Instead they have been scrubbed from the internet completely in a matter of hours since their ceo was taking PR heat. Can anyone find the new owner of the CO1N supercomputer or evidence that cloudcroft is still using it?
- cornchips 9y ago
  Improper investigation by the ATO wasn't comfortable so they jumped islands. No customers, just investments. Before they were deleted there were videos of pieces of the equipment.
  - asfjklasjfkd 9y ago
    There wasn't a single video of a datacenter or server racks instead there were videos of Craig receiving shipments of xeon phi cards (as in 1 or 2 not dozens or hundreds) and constructing a xeon phi based desktop computer. He also points to a box saying it's full of infiniband cards and xeon phi cards (doesn't open it). In Craig Wright's supercomputing class, students are given access to a single node of the purported supercomputer. The only evidence of the supercomputer ever existing is on the green500 list. If it was an improper investigation then fight it in court and release a public statement on the company's site like a normal company. Nuking your web presence and hiding in another continent is not exactly normal behavior.
    - cornchips 9y ago
      Shipments of xeon phi represents the supercomputer. The desktop machines loaded with them is for developers. He had 3 phase going into his private residential area home. In an already 230v country, means a LOT of power... The evidence weighs with the expenditure of large investments. The court fights will probably come as evidenced by a segment in his recent public talk. Especially in countries with libel laws. Court costs a lot of time and money which could be used for better things.
TD-Linux 9y ago
CoinGeek is either run by or paid for by Craig Wright. You can see that all of the articles are either strongly in his favor or in line with his recent opinions [1]. Craig Wright is a known fraud and scammer, who claims to be Satoshi. He not only failed to prove it, but created a clearly fabricated PGP key to do so [2]. He has recently threatened to sue anyone who questions his claims [3]. Stay far, far away. [1] https://coingeek.com/author/eliafram/ https://coingeek.com/author/eliafram/ [2] https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/jpgq3y/satoshis-pgp-keys-are-probably-backdated-and-point-to-a-hoax https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/jpgq3y/satoshis-p... [3] https://gist.github.com/harding/b7067d2943706e2e3d3f7aab539a67c5 https://gist.github.com/harding/b7067d2943706e2e3d3f7aab539a...
- GBiT 9y ago
  CoinGeek took from him interview, and now pushing series including analysis of it. And about PGP key... If you took a look at his appearance in Future of Bitcoin conference, you understood, that actually, he signed with fabricated key Nobel prize winner, additional to that, if you took a second to read that text, you understood, that he don't even had intention to sign with real key.
  - TD-Linux 9y ago
    Yes, the third citation is a transcript of his talk in the Future of Bitcoin conference. For those curious, you can also watch it on Youtube [1] (warning: maximum cringe). He mentions the PGP key, but only connects it to the Australian Tax Office (which he defrauded, and is now living in the UK). I'm not sure how that's supposed to change my conclusion. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAcOnvOVquo&feature=youtu.be&t=8679 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAcOnvOVquo&feature=youtu.be...
    - mbgaxyz 9y ago
      Hmm. The UK and Australia have an extradition treaty and good working relations. If someone were to abscond from Australia, having committed an offence such as fraud, the UK seems a strange choice of destination.
cornchips 9y ago
Why was this flagged?
mbgaxyz 9y ago
Moderators, why was this submission flagged?

23 points by mbgaxyz 9y ago

This story says: >The article then mentions the above claim that SGI had no relationship with Craig Wright, and also attacks Wright’s academic credibility by stating he lied about his PhD degree – stating that Charles Sturt University never provided him with any PhD. But CoinGeek and I have already verified and confirmed that the degrees all do exist. Whereas Forbes says: > His now-wiped LinkedIn page [..] suggested he had a PhD in computer science with Sydney's Charles Sturt University (CSU). But a statement sent to FORBES today from the university said it had never handed Wright any PhD. "Mr Wright has not been awarded a PhD from CSU," the statement read. [0] Both of these statements can not be correct, right? Maybe he could he have gotten his PhD after the Forbes article? If so this article should make it clear that the early claims he did not have a PhD from CSU were correct but that this state of affairs has changed. This story also says: >CoinGeek has since received mounting evidence which in fact provide strong proofs that SGI did work closely with Craig Wright. Countless emails, records, documents, training material, reference letters, including a signed Non-Disclosure Agreement by both Chris Clarkson (formerly) of SGI, and Craig Wright. Also on hand is evidence of conference video footage of the two parties in question. However the linked article reads: >SGI says that “Cloudcroft has never been an SGI customer and SGI has no relationship with Cloudcroft CEO Craig Steven Wright.” [1] It could well be the case that Cloudcroft was not an SGI customer and that SGI has no relationship with Cloudcroft and also that Cloudcroft and SGI had communications. These are not mutually exclusive claims. [0]: Forbes: Time To Call A Hoax? Inconsistencies On 'Probable' Bitcoin Creator's PhD And Supercomputers Revealed - https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/12/11/bitcoin-creator-satoshi-craig-wright-lies-hoax/#30ec33ad6794 https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/12/11/bitco... [1]: Wired: New Clues Suggest Craig Wright, Suspected Bitcoin Creator, May Be a Hoaxer - https://www.wired.com/2015/12/new-clues-suggest-satoshi-suspect-craig-wright-may-be-a-hoaxer/ https://www.wired.com/2015/12/new-clues-suggest-satoshi-susp...

cornchips 9y ago
I remember this well. Never seen smearing until then. Which included advocates of bitcoin and other coins for various reasons. Happened the week of Craig's outing by the people extorting him. Here's some information class about he was teaching right until they scrubbed it: https://web.archive.org/web/20120430035605/http://www.itmasters.edu.au/WhichQualification/MasterofInformationSystemsSecurity/DigitalForensics.aspx https://web.archive.org/web/20120430035605/http://www.itmast... And another: https://archive.is/ttLth https://archive.is/ttLth This was on their youtube page: https://archive.is/gXPkX https://archive.is/gXPkX "Presented by Dr Craig Wright of Charles Sturt University and the Global Institute for Cyber Security + Research." The SGI endorsement letter existed. I have a copy, but the web version was scrubbed. The remaining evidence is in the form of a copy of press release http://archive.is/cqI6S http://archive.is/cqI6S
- miker64 9y ago
  'Teaching a class at' and 'receiving a degree from' an institution are two very different things. Not sure what these links are trying to prove or disprove?
  - cornchips 9y ago
    Can one teach a Master class with out a Master’s degree?
    - moyix 9y ago
      Depends on the university but often yes. If Craig Wright has a PhD you should be able to find his dissertation, look up his advisor/thesis committee, see his publications in CS conferences, etc.
      - mbgaxyz 9y ago
        Perhaps this is it? https://researchoutput.csu.edu.au/en/publications/the-quantification-of-information-systems-risk-a-look-at-quantita-3 https://researchoutput.csu.edu.au/en/publications/the-quanti... Wright, C. (2017). The quantification of information systems risk: A look at quantitative responses to information security issues Australia: Charles Sturt University Doctor of Philosophy

powera 9y ago

The author doth protest too much. Craig Wright is not Satoshi. He could have proved it a dozen ways, and has not done so. I neither know nor care if the rest of his resume is fabricated.

asfjklasjfkd 9y ago

If cloudcroft and the demorgan group were legit companies then why did they seemingly evaporate after these stories broke? Shouldn't the matter have been handled professionally by a PR rep for the company? Surely they must have had customers to support and significant assets to support a 2 year old supercomputing company and 9 other ventures. Instead they have been scrubbed from the internet completely in a matter of hours since their ceo was taking PR heat. Can anyone find the new owner of the CO1N supercomputer or evidence that cloudcroft is still using it?

cornchips 9y ago
Improper investigation by the ATO wasn't comfortable so they jumped islands. No customers, just investments. Before they were deleted there were videos of pieces of the equipment.
- asfjklasjfkd 9y ago
  There wasn't a single video of a datacenter or server racks instead there were videos of Craig receiving shipments of xeon phi cards (as in 1 or 2 not dozens or hundreds) and constructing a xeon phi based desktop computer. He also points to a box saying it's full of infiniband cards and xeon phi cards (doesn't open it). In Craig Wright's supercomputing class, students are given access to a single node of the purported supercomputer. The only evidence of the supercomputer ever existing is on the green500 list. If it was an improper investigation then fight it in court and release a public statement on the company's site like a normal company. Nuking your web presence and hiding in another continent is not exactly normal behavior.
  - cornchips 9y ago
    Shipments of xeon phi represents the supercomputer. The desktop machines loaded with them is for developers. He had 3 phase going into his private residential area home. In an already 230v country, means a LOT of power... The evidence weighs with the expenditure of large investments. The court fights will probably come as evidenced by a segment in his recent public talk. Especially in countries with libel laws. Court costs a lot of time and money which could be used for better things.

TD-Linux 9y ago

CoinGeek is either run by or paid for by Craig Wright. You can see that all of the articles are either strongly in his favor or in line with his recent opinions [1]. Craig Wright is a known fraud and scammer, who claims to be Satoshi. He not only failed to prove it, but created a clearly fabricated PGP key to do so [2]. He has recently threatened to sue anyone who questions his claims [3]. Stay far, far away. [1] https://coingeek.com/author/eliafram/ https://coingeek.com/author/eliafram/ [2] https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/jpgq3y/satoshis-pgp-keys-are-probably-backdated-and-point-to-a-hoax https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/jpgq3y/satoshis-p... [3] https://gist.github.com/harding/b7067d2943706e2e3d3f7aab539a67c5 https://gist.github.com/harding/b7067d2943706e2e3d3f7aab539a...

GBiT 9y ago
CoinGeek took from him interview, and now pushing series including analysis of it. And about PGP key... If you took a look at his appearance in Future of Bitcoin conference, you understood, that actually, he signed with fabricated key Nobel prize winner, additional to that, if you took a second to read that text, you understood, that he don't even had intention to sign with real key.
- TD-Linux 9y ago
  Yes, the third citation is a transcript of his talk in the Future of Bitcoin conference. For those curious, you can also watch it on Youtube [1] (warning: maximum cringe). He mentions the PGP key, but only connects it to the Australian Tax Office (which he defrauded, and is now living in the UK). I'm not sure how that's supposed to change my conclusion. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAcOnvOVquo&feature=youtu.be&t=8679 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAcOnvOVquo&feature=youtu.be...
  - mbgaxyz 9y ago
    Hmm. The UK and Australia have an extradition treaty and good working relations. If someone were to abscond from Australia, having committed an offence such as fraud, the UK seems a strange choice of destination.

cornchips 9y ago

Why was this flagged?

mbgaxyz 9y ago

Moderators, why was this submission flagged?