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I was really excited for this, but it is just a wrapper for the Google Art project. I am not really sure how you got the rights to be able to sell prints of the

I was really excited for this, but it is just a wrapper for the Google Art project. I am not really sure how you got the rights to be able to sell prints of these, or why you want to charge $9.99 a month for a pro version, but good luck!

graysonk 9y ago
Ah, okay you are able to print them because some are public domain. But it doesn't look like all of them are? Looking at the category that I am guessing you pulled these from (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Google_Art_Project https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Google_Art_Proje...), some have pretty restrictive rights. One of your recently featured artworks (https://www.artpip.com/artwork/57a4cf0970f12152abacdf78 https://www.artpip.com/artwork/57a4cf0970f12152abacdf78) seems to be owned by the Van Gogh Museum and needs a license to be printed. If I wanted to order a print of that, do you have the correct license?
- mcjiggerlog 9y ago
  Most of the images have been sourced from wikimedia and are all considered in the public domain. See [1] for an example of wikimedia's position on licencing: 'The official position taken by the Wikimedia Foundation is that "faithful reproductions of two-dimensional public domain works of art are public domain".' Also, it's a $9.99 one-off payment, not monthly. Serving tens of thousands of high-res images a day adds up, so there's some extra paid features there for those that particularly enjoy the app and feel like supporting the project. [1] https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Van_Gogh_-_Starry_Night_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Van_Gogh_-_Starry_...
  - firmgently 9y ago
    So that means "if the artwork is public domain, a faithful reproduction/photo of it is also public domain". But if the original artwork is not PD it's not covered by that statement. I can imagine a situation where an artwork is copyrighted but someone takes a photo of it and uploads it to Wikimedia saying 'here, use my photo'.. but they don't have rights over the original. Which would be like camming a film in the cinema and saying 'the original is copyrighted but my reproduction is PD'. Not trying to knock the idea - I'm an artist myself and think anything that helps spread and communicate art is great - good on you. Just something to keep an eye on.
    - kaffeemitsahne 9y ago
      The painting in grandparent's comment is from 1868, I don't think anyone can meaningfully claim the copyright to that, no matter how good of a picture they took.
rl3 9y ago
A tangential thought while we're on the subject: NASA imagery can actually be used commercially and even sold for profit. The only caveats are that you can't use the likeness of any employee (e.g. astronauts) without their permission, you can't use anything with current employees in it, and the usage cannot implicitly or explicitly convey endorsement by NASA.[0] I've seen countless scummy stock photo sites selling NASA imagery for ridiculous prices (think $200 per image) when it's all completely free in the first place. [0] https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/guidelines/index.html https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/guidelines/index.html
- xixixao 9y ago
  Does anyone know of a similar app for NASA imagery? That'd be awesome.
  - Viper007Bond 9y ago
    There's dozens of apps that will set your wallpaper to one of NASA's images of the day. Google will help you out.

graysonk 9y ago

Ah, okay you are able to print them because some are public domain. But it doesn't look like all of them are? Looking at the category that I am guessing you pulled these from (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Google_Art_Project https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Google_Art_Proje...), some have pretty restrictive rights. One of your recently featured artworks (https://www.artpip.com/artwork/57a4cf0970f12152abacdf78 https://www.artpip.com/artwork/57a4cf0970f12152abacdf78) seems to be owned by the Van Gogh Museum and needs a license to be printed. If I wanted to order a print of that, do you have the correct license?

mcjiggerlog 9y ago
Most of the images have been sourced from wikimedia and are all considered in the public domain. See [1] for an example of wikimedia's position on licencing: 'The official position taken by the Wikimedia Foundation is that "faithful reproductions of two-dimensional public domain works of art are public domain".' Also, it's a $9.99 one-off payment, not monthly. Serving tens of thousands of high-res images a day adds up, so there's some extra paid features there for those that particularly enjoy the app and feel like supporting the project. [1] https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Van_Gogh_-_Starry_Night_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Van_Gogh_-_Starry_...
- firmgently 9y ago
  So that means "if the artwork is public domain, a faithful reproduction/photo of it is also public domain". But if the original artwork is not PD it's not covered by that statement. I can imagine a situation where an artwork is copyrighted but someone takes a photo of it and uploads it to Wikimedia saying 'here, use my photo'.. but they don't have rights over the original. Which would be like camming a film in the cinema and saying 'the original is copyrighted but my reproduction is PD'. Not trying to knock the idea - I'm an artist myself and think anything that helps spread and communicate art is great - good on you. Just something to keep an eye on.
  - kaffeemitsahne 9y ago
    The painting in grandparent's comment is from 1868, I don't think anyone can meaningfully claim the copyright to that, no matter how good of a picture they took.

rl3 9y ago

A tangential thought while we're on the subject: NASA imagery can actually be used commercially and even sold for profit. The only caveats are that you can't use the likeness of any employee (e.g. astronauts) without their permission, you can't use anything with current employees in it, and the usage cannot implicitly or explicitly convey endorsement by NASA.[0] I've seen countless scummy stock photo sites selling NASA imagery for ridiculous prices (think $200 per image) when it's all completely free in the first place. [0] https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/guidelines/index.html https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/guidelines/index.html

xixixao 9y ago
Does anyone know of a similar app for NASA imagery? That'd be awesome.
- Viper007Bond 9y ago
  There's dozens of apps that will set your wallpaper to one of NASA's images of the day. Google will help you out.