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> There is not one single dapp that is decentralised and working. Sure there is. ENS, for one example. Plenty of gambling apps for another (I don't find them p

> There is not one single dapp that is decentralised and working. Sure there is. ENS, for one example. Plenty of gambling apps for another (I don't find them particularly _compelling_, but they are there and they do work)

kang 9y ago
ENS is a great example of a centralised system plus its only about eth based names, no application other than just a method by to collect money by the platform for offering services that are only about the platform and work in the platform.
- nicksdjohnson 9y ago
  What's centralised about ENS? Also, it can be used to resolve any resource you want - although you're shifting the goalposts, since that wasn't originally a requirement.
  - kang 9y ago
    1. the whole blockchain it is based on 2. root signatures in ENS
    - nicksdjohnson 9y ago
      Okay, I'll bite. What's 'centralised' about Ethereuem, without twisting the word beyond all recognition?
- chejazi 9y ago
  ENS is implemented as a set of smart contracts with some multisig management. Are you arguing that this is centralized? Also, money that is collected by the ENS contracts is only held as a deposit.
  - kang 9y ago
    Yes, I am arguing it is centralised. Read about the centralised root signature system that is the way to add new TLDs to the system. Also this is worse than the current system we have in the world because it wastes more energy in doing so! It claims it is a decentralised naming system, though looking deeper you will find it is just clever marketing and underneath is it is only ethereum-platform based naming for anything like your address etc. will only work in eth browsers, not all etc. which I have already mentioned in my OP.
    - chejazi 9y ago
      > it is only ethereum-platform based naming for anything like your address etc. The "etc" is important here, because it refers to richer resources such as content hashes. With this, you could load the entire "frontend" for a website from a decentralized datasource, e.g. Swarm. Meanwhile, the backend could be the Ethereum blockchain/smart contract methods.
      - kang 9y ago
        No etc is not important because it is essentially a centralized mapping of a string of text to another, thats all.
    - nicksdjohnson 9y ago
      You seem to have very (some would say ridiculously) high standards for 'decentralised'. If the root multisig was deleted, would it be 'decentralised' in your book? > It claims it is a decentralised naming system, though looking deeper you will find it is just clever marketing and underneath is it is only ethereum-platform based naming for anything like your address etc. will only work in eth browsers, not all etc. which I have already mentioned in my OP. It doesn't claim to be DNS. DNS is not the only naming system.

kang 9y ago

ENS is a great example of a centralised system plus its only about eth based names, no application other than just a method by to collect money by the platform for offering services that are only about the platform and work in the platform.

nicksdjohnson 9y ago
What's centralised about ENS? Also, it can be used to resolve any resource you want - although you're shifting the goalposts, since that wasn't originally a requirement.
- kang 9y ago
  1. the whole blockchain it is based on 2. root signatures in ENS
  - nicksdjohnson 9y ago
    Okay, I'll bite. What's 'centralised' about Ethereuem, without twisting the word beyond all recognition?
chejazi 9y ago
ENS is implemented as a set of smart contracts with some multisig management. Are you arguing that this is centralized? Also, money that is collected by the ENS contracts is only held as a deposit.
- kang 9y ago
  Yes, I am arguing it is centralised. Read about the centralised root signature system that is the way to add new TLDs to the system. Also this is worse than the current system we have in the world because it wastes more energy in doing so! It claims it is a decentralised naming system, though looking deeper you will find it is just clever marketing and underneath is it is only ethereum-platform based naming for anything like your address etc. will only work in eth browsers, not all etc. which I have already mentioned in my OP.
  - chejazi 9y ago
    > it is only ethereum-platform based naming for anything like your address etc. The "etc" is important here, because it refers to richer resources such as content hashes. With this, you could load the entire "frontend" for a website from a decentralized datasource, e.g. Swarm. Meanwhile, the backend could be the Ethereum blockchain/smart contract methods.
    - kang 9y ago
      No etc is not important because it is essentially a centralized mapping of a string of text to another, thats all.
  - nicksdjohnson 9y ago
    You seem to have very (some would say ridiculously) high standards for 'decentralised'. If the root multisig was deleted, would it be 'decentralised' in your book? > It claims it is a decentralised naming system, though looking deeper you will find it is just clever marketing and underneath is it is only ethereum-platform based naming for anything like your address etc. will only work in eth browsers, not all etc. which I have already mentioned in my OP. It doesn't claim to be DNS. DNS is not the only naming system.