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Talking about the problem is healthy and usually a part of a solution. Real-life sexism is definitely worse and times more scary than public attempts to fix it.

Talking about the problem is healthy and usually a part of a solution. Real-life sexism is definitely worse and times more scary than public attempts to fix it. Bringing more women helps, but if the culture wouldn’t change, they’ll just leave.

falcolas 9y ago
Articles like this don't constitute "talking about the problem". It's mud slinging that paints the entire industry poorly. Not to mention, these venues will consider the news to be "ancient history" in a month, leaving nothing but mud stains and hurt feelings (I'm personally tired of being painted as a sexist asshole who "just doesn't get it" because I'm a white male) in its wake. The "discussion" will be over, and nobody will be better off because of it.
- _jtrig 9y ago
  Good. Feelings need to be hurt. People need to be uncomfortable. Mud slinging is necessary to get people to give a shit and do something.
  - falcolas 9y ago
    Uncomfortable and hurt people are never going to react in a positive way, and expecting otherwise is going to result in disappointment. They'll certainly do something, but most people who care about the issue won't like what is done. They may: Become even more hostile about the subject. Be even less willing to open the ranks to more women. Double down on "it's someone else's problem". Worse, people who currently give a shit and act on that may just... stop. "I support their work and I just get attacked for it, why bother?"
    - _jtrig 9y ago
      Your argument sounds similar to those who opposed the civil rights movement.
    - wcummings 9y ago
      >Worse, people who currently give a shit and act on that may just... stop. "I support their work and I just get attacked for it, why bother?" Is it worth having allies who hold their support hostage?
- wcummings 9y ago
  >I'm personally tired of being painted as a sexist asshole who "just doesn't get it" because I'm a white male Iuno, I'm a "white male" and I don't have this problem.

falcolas 9y ago

Articles like this don't constitute "talking about the problem". It's mud slinging that paints the entire industry poorly. Not to mention, these venues will consider the news to be "ancient history" in a month, leaving nothing but mud stains and hurt feelings (I'm personally tired of being painted as a sexist asshole who "just doesn't get it" because I'm a white male) in its wake. The "discussion" will be over, and nobody will be better off because of it.

_jtrig 9y ago
Good. Feelings need to be hurt. People need to be uncomfortable. Mud slinging is necessary to get people to give a shit and do something.
- falcolas 9y ago
  Uncomfortable and hurt people are never going to react in a positive way, and expecting otherwise is going to result in disappointment. They'll certainly do something, but most people who care about the issue won't like what is done. They may: Become even more hostile about the subject. Be even less willing to open the ranks to more women. Double down on "it's someone else's problem". Worse, people who currently give a shit and act on that may just... stop. "I support their work and I just get attacked for it, why bother?"
  - _jtrig 9y ago
    Your argument sounds similar to those who opposed the civil rights movement.
  - wcummings 9y ago
    >Worse, people who currently give a shit and act on that may just... stop. "I support their work and I just get attacked for it, why bother?" Is it worth having allies who hold their support hostage?
wcummings 9y ago
>I'm personally tired of being painted as a sexist asshole who "just doesn't get it" because I'm a white male Iuno, I'm a "white male" and I don't have this problem.