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At the same time, sweeping the problem under the rug and pretending it doesn't happen isn't going to fix anything either. At least with this approach, those in

by s73ver 9y ago

At the same time, sweeping the problem under the rug and pretending it doesn't happen isn't going to fix anything either. At least with this approach, those in charge are pressured to do something about it.

baron816 9y ago
I definitely don't think it should be swept under the rug, but I don't think it needs to be broadcast through the mass media for all the world to see and for the entire industry to be condemned as misogynists. This shit is awful and it needs to be dealt with appropriately. If executives don't want to do that, then they should be held accountable too. But I think there's a way to do those things without shaming the 99% people who have nothing to do with any of this.
- urahara 9y ago
  Not talking about it publicly is very close to sweeping under the rug. Important problems like this one should be discussed publicly as much as possible. This raises awareness and stimulates the search for solutions. Recently, womens' public posts led to real action started to be taken to address the problem. Besides, for many women this public talk is currently the only thing they can do in their defense.
- s73ver 9y ago
  But they're not shaming us. I don't feel shamed at all by the coverage. I'm not one of the people they're talking about; I know I'm not, so I don't feel upset by the coverage.
  - dropit_sphere 9y ago
    I think they are talking about you, or are at least playing extremely fast and loose with phrasing. Are you part of "Silicon Valley," which "has a culture problem?" Are you one of "the men" in "the workforce"? I don't feel ashamed. But this is, to some degree, slander.
    - s73ver 9y ago
      And I don’t. I know they aren’t talking about me. Because I don’t do those things.
falcolas 9y ago
> At least with this approach, those in charge are pressured to do something about it. Personally, I doubt it. The media pressure will disappear in a few months, and short of a very public rape, will not appear again for years. That's how the modern media works - come in while the topic is hot, stick around and fling poo for a month or so, then leave it for something more salacious.

by s73ver 9y ago

baron816 9y ago

I definitely don't think it should be swept under the rug, but I don't think it needs to be broadcast through the mass media for all the world to see and for the entire industry to be condemned as misogynists. This shit is awful and it needs to be dealt with appropriately. If executives don't want to do that, then they should be held accountable too. But I think there's a way to do those things without shaming the 99% people who have nothing to do with any of this.

urahara 9y ago
Not talking about it publicly is very close to sweeping under the rug. Important problems like this one should be discussed publicly as much as possible. This raises awareness and stimulates the search for solutions. Recently, womens' public posts led to real action started to be taken to address the problem. Besides, for many women this public talk is currently the only thing they can do in their defense.
s73ver 9y ago
But they're not shaming us. I don't feel shamed at all by the coverage. I'm not one of the people they're talking about; I know I'm not, so I don't feel upset by the coverage.
- dropit_sphere 9y ago
  I think they are talking about you, or are at least playing extremely fast and loose with phrasing. Are you part of "Silicon Valley," which "has a culture problem?" Are you one of "the men" in "the workforce"? I don't feel ashamed. But this is, to some degree, slander.
  - s73ver 9y ago
    And I don’t. I know they aren’t talking about me. Because I don’t do those things.

falcolas 9y ago

> At least with this approach, those in charge are pressured to do something about it. Personally, I doubt it. The media pressure will disappear in a few months, and short of a very public rape, will not appear again for years. That's how the modern media works - come in while the topic is hot, stick around and fling poo for a month or so, then leave it for something more salacious.