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How about just enabling Shadow copies by default! I don't understand why Windows has great "Time machine like features", but every fucking time I right click a

How about just enabling Shadow copies by default! I don't understand why Windows has great "Time machine like features", but every fucking time I right click and go to Properties and look at the "Previous versions" tab and it is completely empty.

gruez 9y ago
ransomware typically delete shadow copies (and any other local backups they can get their hands on)
sgift 9y ago
Probably because the typical anti-MS comments would be worse for them than the risk of ransomware (from their perspective): "Windows eats all my hard disk!! I've updated to <windows xy>/Windows did an update and now all my disk space is gone!!! Don't update!!!!" "New MS update steals your disk space, here's how to stop it" And so on, and so on.
- cm2187 9y ago
  No it wouldn't be turned on by default. If it was every software that you run occasionally would break. This would be opt-in for certain folders.
  - brainfire 9y ago
    No, this thread is about shadow copies being turned on by default.
- drdaeman 9y ago
  Could be worse, like a circulating recipe how to completely remove VSS by removing system files related to shadow copy services, or something like that.
mc32 9y ago
My observation is that people who buy Macs also buy an external drive for Time Machine but Windows PC buyers don't usually buy an external drive and turn on File History. Slightly different culture, I guess.
- adiabatty 9y ago
  macOS will say "You plugged in an external drive. Do you want to set it up with Time Machine?" Windows, IIRC, doesn't ask you if you want to set up a backup if you plug in an external drive.
KirinDave 9y ago
Because it's a PR nightmare? I have seen otherwise smart, famous people flip out in public when they learn that Windows has a built in window recorder. Same folks have no concerns with their video drivers doing the exact same thing. That said, I think the only really safe way to do this is a history chain that lives off-site. That means copies to azure, and even with great crypto and blocklists, that's not going to fly in the news.

gruez 9y ago

ransomware typically delete shadow copies (and any other local backups they can get their hands on)

sgift 9y ago

Probably because the typical anti-MS comments would be worse for them than the risk of ransomware (from their perspective): "Windows eats all my hard disk!! I've updated to <windows xy>/Windows did an update and now all my disk space is gone!!! Don't update!!!!" "New MS update steals your disk space, here's how to stop it" And so on, and so on.

cm2187 9y ago
No it wouldn't be turned on by default. If it was every software that you run occasionally would break. This would be opt-in for certain folders.
- brainfire 9y ago
  No, this thread is about shadow copies being turned on by default.
drdaeman 9y ago
Could be worse, like a circulating recipe how to completely remove VSS by removing system files related to shadow copy services, or something like that.

mc32 9y ago

My observation is that people who buy Macs also buy an external drive for Time Machine but Windows PC buyers don't usually buy an external drive and turn on File History. Slightly different culture, I guess.

adiabatty 9y ago
macOS will say "You plugged in an external drive. Do you want to set it up with Time Machine?" Windows, IIRC, doesn't ask you if you want to set up a backup if you plug in an external drive.

KirinDave 9y ago

Because it's a PR nightmare? I have seen otherwise smart, famous people flip out in public when they learn that Windows has a built in window recorder. Same folks have no concerns with their video drivers doing the exact same thing. That said, I think the only really safe way to do this is a history chain that lives off-site. That means copies to azure, and even with great crypto and blocklists, that's not going to fly in the news.