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> The default outcome in he-said-she-said, no other proof is no action from HR. There needs to be more justification to this statement. What happens in HR is b

> The default outcome in he-said-she-said, no other proof is no action from HR. There needs to be more justification to this statement. What happens in HR is basically a black box to most people.

vkou 9y ago
Our society, our justice system, and our corporate culture has an enormous bias in favor of harassers, abusers, and rapists. There is enormous pressure to marginalize, ignore, and punish victims, to ignore accusations, and to protect aggressors. See - practically every single instance of rape/harassment/abuse that has hit the public eye. The consistent pattern in all of them is how many victims had to come forward, how many complaints were filed against HR, how many people had to tell the same fucking story until someone took them seriously. If you are an actual harasser, the deck is incredibly stacked in your favour. The odds that you'll be punished are low. If you also have actual innocence on your side, and lack of any proof on theirs, the odds are even lower.
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- sheepmullet 9y ago
  > Our society, our justice system, and our corporate culture has an enormous bias in favor of harassers, abusers, and rapists. Do you have any evidence? Show me the pressure society has placed on rape victims that come forward. Show me the bias of the courts - Accusations without evidence are treated much more seriously than they would be for other crimes. Show me the corporations who protect the normal man. When I was being bullied by my female boss I would have loved a corporate culture on my side. Etc etc. > If you are an actual harasser, the deck is incredibly stacked in your favour Yes. Because the average woman will not report you for minor sexual harassment. Not because of society, our corporate culture, or our justice system. And it doesn't help the innocent man who has been falsely accused.

> The default outcome in he-said-she-said, no other proof is no action from HR. There needs to be more justification to this statement. What happens in HR is basically a black box to most people.

vkou 9y ago

Our society, our justice system, and our corporate culture has an enormous bias in favor of harassers, abusers, and rapists. There is enormous pressure to marginalize, ignore, and punish victims, to ignore accusations, and to protect aggressors. See - practically every single instance of rape/harassment/abuse that has hit the public eye. The consistent pattern in all of them is how many victims had to come forward, how many complaints were filed against HR, how many people had to tell the same fucking story until someone took them seriously. If you are an actual harasser, the deck is incredibly stacked in your favour. The odds that you'll be punished are low. If you also have actual innocence on your side, and lack of any proof on theirs, the odds are even lower.

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sheepmullet 9y ago
> Our society, our justice system, and our corporate culture has an enormous bias in favor of harassers, abusers, and rapists. Do you have any evidence? Show me the pressure society has placed on rape victims that come forward. Show me the bias of the courts - Accusations without evidence are treated much more seriously than they would be for other crimes. Show me the corporations who protect the normal man. When I was being bullied by my female boss I would have loved a corporate culture on my side. Etc etc. > If you are an actual harasser, the deck is incredibly stacked in your favour Yes. Because the average woman will not report you for minor sexual harassment. Not because of society, our corporate culture, or our justice system. And it doesn't help the innocent man who has been falsely accused.