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It's a cultural issue with Americans. There seems to be a belief there that equality is not really equality but a battle of the genders imo. Women and men alike

It's a cultural issue with Americans. There seems to be a belief there that equality is not really equality but a battle of the genders imo. Women and men alike obsess over the differences and have very traditional dating structures/marriages. Gender equality in Europe makes the states look like a joke

axaxs 9y ago
Hit the nail on the head. Americans are in constant battle, whether sex, sexual orientation, race, religion, etc. It's not as 'equal' as it seems, and if it is, it's because persons go out of their way to cater to those groups. It would be nicer just to see them no differently at all, but I digress.
- throwaway688 9y ago
  > just to see them no differently at all I agree but you can't say this sentiment out loud in some US big tech companies. In fact, saying it out loud may lead to social outrage + job loss + career suicide. A closely related issue to the main one being discussed here.
xiaoma 9y ago
I've noticed a huge difference between China (and the greater Chinese speaking community throughout Asia) and the US, too. I also see a lot of hostility between the sexes in the US. Part of that is due to differences in how people use social media for public shaming and to share "outrage porn", but even in offline interactions there are just fundamentally different expectations. It's absolutely striking how few American couples pour their resources together and run a business together. There are still some family businesses, but it seems like most are run by immigrants. To me, it seems like such a natural thing to band together with and feel you are on a team with the person you've decided to spend your life with. Of course not everyone can be an entrepreneur, but it also looks uncommon in the US for people to significantly invest in their partner's careers either. The focus is more personal. Us vs them has some problems with nepotism and cases of corruption, but it does a lot better than "us vs us", IMO.
- learc83 9y ago
  >Of course not everyone can be an entrepreneur, but it also looks uncommon in the US for people to significantly invest in their partner's careers either About 30% of mothers are stay at home moms and the majority of them are supporting their husband's careers by running the household. The majority of the women who do work, still do the majority of house work and childcare. >It's absolutely striking how few American couples pour their resources together and run a business together. Health insurance has a lot to do with that. It's common for one spouse to work just for insurance. Obamacare helped with that, but with it's future uncertain... >but it seems like most are run by immigrants. This depends heavily on location. And there are few factors at play. -Many immigrants to the US come here specifically with a plan to start a business, and in order to become a permanent resident there are financial requirements. -Immigrants from many countries have historically faced discrimination, and self-employment was their only available option. The networks in place to support self-employment in these communities still exists and self-employment is encouraged within these communities. -Immigrant owned businesses often cater to immigrant communities that are ignored by larger chain stores that have driven many small retail stores out of business.
learc83 9y ago
>Gender equality in Europe makes the states look like a joke Not necessarily true when you consider all of Europe. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2012/10/25/the-u-s-is-catching-up-to-europe-on-gender-equality/?utm_term=.b229db657405 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2012/10/25...

axaxs 9y ago

Hit the nail on the head. Americans are in constant battle, whether sex, sexual orientation, race, religion, etc. It's not as 'equal' as it seems, and if it is, it's because persons go out of their way to cater to those groups. It would be nicer just to see them no differently at all, but I digress.

throwaway688 9y ago
> just to see them no differently at all I agree but you can't say this sentiment out loud in some US big tech companies. In fact, saying it out loud may lead to social outrage + job loss + career suicide. A closely related issue to the main one being discussed here.

xiaoma 9y ago

I've noticed a huge difference between China (and the greater Chinese speaking community throughout Asia) and the US, too. I also see a lot of hostility between the sexes in the US. Part of that is due to differences in how people use social media for public shaming and to share "outrage porn", but even in offline interactions there are just fundamentally different expectations. It's absolutely striking how few American couples pour their resources together and run a business together. There are still some family businesses, but it seems like most are run by immigrants. To me, it seems like such a natural thing to band together with and feel you are on a team with the person you've decided to spend your life with. Of course not everyone can be an entrepreneur, but it also looks uncommon in the US for people to significantly invest in their partner's careers either. The focus is more personal. Us vs them has some problems with nepotism and cases of corruption, but it does a lot better than "us vs us", IMO.

learc83 9y ago
>Of course not everyone can be an entrepreneur, but it also looks uncommon in the US for people to significantly invest in their partner's careers either About 30% of mothers are stay at home moms and the majority of them are supporting their husband's careers by running the household. The majority of the women who do work, still do the majority of house work and childcare. >It's absolutely striking how few American couples pour their resources together and run a business together. Health insurance has a lot to do with that. It's common for one spouse to work just for insurance. Obamacare helped with that, but with it's future uncertain... >but it seems like most are run by immigrants. This depends heavily on location. And there are few factors at play. -Many immigrants to the US come here specifically with a plan to start a business, and in order to become a permanent resident there are financial requirements. -Immigrants from many countries have historically faced discrimination, and self-employment was their only available option. The networks in place to support self-employment in these communities still exists and self-employment is encouraged within these communities. -Immigrant owned businesses often cater to immigrant communities that are ignored by larger chain stores that have driven many small retail stores out of business.

learc83 9y ago

>Gender equality in Europe makes the states look like a joke Not necessarily true when you consider all of Europe. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2012/10/25/the-u-s-is-catching-up-to-europe-on-gender-equality/?utm_term=.b229db657405 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2012/10/25...