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They might get higher numbers, but they are paid in Dollar which is less worth than Euro, also everything is more expensive there than it is here, especially re

They might get higher numbers, but they are paid in Dollar which is less worth than Euro, also everything is more expensive there than it is here, especially rent and food.

weberc2 9y ago
Rent is far cheaper in the U.S. My last apartment was $450/month for 600 sq ft in a good neighborhood. I paid $650 for less than half of that in rural France. Food is probably cheaper too, though not as dramatically. I'm sure there are lots of perks to living in Europe, but rent is not among them.
- dna_polymerase 9y ago
  > Rent Prices in Germany are 29.77% lower than in United States https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Germany https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_resu...
  - weberc2 9y ago
    Those figures don't normalize for apartment size. The "cost to buy" figures do, however, and they show the US costing less than half the price in Germany.
- romwell 9y ago
  Where the hell are you living in this country? Just curious, 'cause the rent in places like Waterloo, IA is about twice the number you quoted. And there's not much going on in Waterloo, IA.
  - weberc2 9y ago
    For 600 sq ft? That's not hard to find anywhere in the Midwest. Here are dozens of results for Waterloo, IA for below $600, many of which are much larger than 600 sq ft: https://www.zillow.com/homes/21174_rid/42.570466,-92.248879,42.422184,-92.437119_rect/0_fs/0_rs/1_fr/1_z/0_mmm/true_fro/-600_mp/1-_beds/any_days/condo,house,apartment_duplex,townhouse_type/days_sort/ https://www.zillow.com/homes/21174_rid/42.570466,-92.248879,...
- nraynaud 9y ago
  Strange, to me it's the converse experience, my appartement in downtown Montpellier, is cheaper and bigger than my girlfriend's appartement in south Scottsdale, AZ.
muninn_ 9y ago
Uh, what? Have you been to the United States before? Everything, and I mean everything is incredibly cheap here. I'm just like an average dev in flyover country and I max out my retirement savings, bought a house, and can go buy a BMW and fill it up with <$2.00/gal gasoline, oh and that's just on my income. Doesn't include spouse. And after I fill up with gas I can go to an average grocery store that is far larger than just about anything I've seen in all my European travels and buy like 50 avocados for $0.89/ea, then go buy a bottle of Grey Goose for $30, pour it out, then buy another one and pretend I'm in Europe paying Europe prices for things.
- pedrosorio 9y ago
  "I can go to an average grocery store that is far larger than just about anything I've seen in all my European travels" How is this relevant?
  - rockinghigh 9y ago
    It's also not true. Carrefour and Auchan stores in France can be the same size as the big Walmart stores in the US.
    - computereye 9y ago
      I agree. In addition, food quality is miles ahead
      - muninn_ 9y ago
        No it's not. Plus the selection in American grocery stores is far superior.
    - muninn_ 9y ago
      Right, which is why I said average. Average American grocery stores are nearby and sell a gigantic amount of food. And the quality is exactly the same or better.
  - 9y ago

They might get higher numbers, but they are paid in Dollar which is less worth than Euro, also everything is more expensive there than it is here, especially rent and food.

weberc2 9y ago

Rent is far cheaper in the U.S. My last apartment was $450/month for 600 sq ft in a good neighborhood. I paid $650 for less than half of that in rural France. Food is probably cheaper too, though not as dramatically. I'm sure there are lots of perks to living in Europe, but rent is not among them.

dna_polymerase 9y ago
> Rent Prices in Germany are 29.77% lower than in United States https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Germany https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_resu...
- weberc2 9y ago
  Those figures don't normalize for apartment size. The "cost to buy" figures do, however, and they show the US costing less than half the price in Germany.
romwell 9y ago
Where the hell are you living in this country? Just curious, 'cause the rent in places like Waterloo, IA is about twice the number you quoted. And there's not much going on in Waterloo, IA.
- weberc2 9y ago
  For 600 sq ft? That's not hard to find anywhere in the Midwest. Here are dozens of results for Waterloo, IA for below $600, many of which are much larger than 600 sq ft: https://www.zillow.com/homes/21174_rid/42.570466,-92.248879,42.422184,-92.437119_rect/0_fs/0_rs/1_fr/1_z/0_mmm/true_fro/-600_mp/1-_beds/any_days/condo,house,apartment_duplex,townhouse_type/days_sort/ https://www.zillow.com/homes/21174_rid/42.570466,-92.248879,...
nraynaud 9y ago
Strange, to me it's the converse experience, my appartement in downtown Montpellier, is cheaper and bigger than my girlfriend's appartement in south Scottsdale, AZ.

muninn_ 9y ago

Uh, what? Have you been to the United States before? Everything, and I mean everything is incredibly cheap here. I'm just like an average dev in flyover country and I max out my retirement savings, bought a house, and can go buy a BMW and fill it up with <$2.00/gal gasoline, oh and that's just on my income. Doesn't include spouse. And after I fill up with gas I can go to an average grocery store that is far larger than just about anything I've seen in all my European travels and buy like 50 avocados for $0.89/ea, then go buy a bottle of Grey Goose for $30, pour it out, then buy another one and pretend I'm in Europe paying Europe prices for things.

pedrosorio 9y ago
"I can go to an average grocery store that is far larger than just about anything I've seen in all my European travels" How is this relevant?
- rockinghigh 9y ago
  It's also not true. Carrefour and Auchan stores in France can be the same size as the big Walmart stores in the US.
  - computereye 9y ago
    I agree. In addition, food quality is miles ahead
    - muninn_ 9y ago
      No it's not. Plus the selection in American grocery stores is far superior.
  - muninn_ 9y ago
    Right, which is why I said average. Average American grocery stores are nearby and sell a gigantic amount of food. And the quality is exactly the same or better.
- 9y ago