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This will become extremely common in the future. We won't be able to trust any measurement (including photo, video, audio). This is why we need a trust managem

This will become extremely common in the future. We won't be able to trust any measurement (including photo, video, audio). This is why we need a trust management system. Something that can be used to track people's statements, commitments and predictions in order to attribute them scores. Then, we'll be able to trust people's word without having to rely on expensive and unreliable verification processes. - Imagine being able to hire people without needing to interview them? - Imagine being able to let strangers borrow your car or get into your house with little or no risk? - Imagine being able to predict the future with known accuracy thanks to the trust score of every contributing agent? - Imagine a world where nobody lies because the currency is trust?

teddyh 9y ago
Imagine a world where crime is literally impossible to get away with. In such a world, new laws would have no need to follow common standards of morality or decency, and could be made arbitrarily specific. Politicians and policymakers could simply decide what they wanted the law to be, and would have no need for common people or police to report crimes or enforce these laws. Today, there are many laws that could not be made, because doing so would be ridiculous; almost nobody would report anyone breaking them, and police would almost never enforce them. There are some such laws today, created in the distant past, and the cultural norms have simply changed around them. Imagine if all such current laws would be impossible to break without automatically being detected with irrefutable evidence. There have been outdated laws in the past that have eventually been overturned, since they were obsolete by community standards. If they were instead impossible to disobey, where would the incentive be to abolish them? What would the laws of such a society eventually look like?
- miguelrochefort 9y ago
  I advocate total transparency. I believe that privacy contributes to more harm than good. I believe that all laws should be systematically enforced, even though I probably break many on a daily basis (knowingly or not). Systematically enforcing bad laws is probably the best way to emphasize their damage, and the fastest way to eliminate them. Imagine putting half the population in jail because they once consumed drugs, did not pay taxes on all income, etc. I'm sure this wouldn't happen, and laws would be changed. This would help getting rid of obviously bad laws, but this probably wouldn't help minorities (those who break less often broken but still bad laws). Therefore, we should still be critical of all laws, and focus on reducing their number to a minimum. Personally, I believe that 99% of laws and regulations do more harm than good, and would get rid of them all. I don't really like the idea of a central government, and would prefer not have them enforce any law.
  - JetSpiegel 9y ago
    > Imagine putting half the population in jail because they once consumed drugs, did not pay taxes on all income You don't need to imagine this, change some numbers around and you get the US. What is legal and what is moral are different things.
    - miguelrochefort 9y ago
      Systematically enforcing laws would put all kinds of people in jail (including lawmakers), not just racial minorities. Shouldn't we aim to reduce the gap between legality and morality?
  - teddyh 9y ago
    > Systematically enforcing bad laws is probably the best way to emphasize their damage, and the fastest way to eliminate them. You don’t give any evidence for this, and practical experience seems to indicate the opposite – that the absolute enforcement of laws is what keep them in place.
    - mooreds 9y ago
      Case in point: the security theater at the TSA every time one flies.

teddyh 9y ago

Imagine a world where crime is literally impossible to get away with. In such a world, new laws would have no need to follow common standards of morality or decency, and could be made arbitrarily specific. Politicians and policymakers could simply decide what they wanted the law to be, and would have no need for common people or police to report crimes or enforce these laws. Today, there are many laws that could not be made, because doing so would be ridiculous; almost nobody would report anyone breaking them, and police would almost never enforce them. There are some such laws today, created in the distant past, and the cultural norms have simply changed around them. Imagine if all such current laws would be impossible to break without automatically being detected with irrefutable evidence. There have been outdated laws in the past that have eventually been overturned, since they were obsolete by community standards. If they were instead impossible to disobey, where would the incentive be to abolish them? What would the laws of such a society eventually look like?

miguelrochefort 9y ago
I advocate total transparency. I believe that privacy contributes to more harm than good. I believe that all laws should be systematically enforced, even though I probably break many on a daily basis (knowingly or not). Systematically enforcing bad laws is probably the best way to emphasize their damage, and the fastest way to eliminate them. Imagine putting half the population in jail because they once consumed drugs, did not pay taxes on all income, etc. I'm sure this wouldn't happen, and laws would be changed. This would help getting rid of obviously bad laws, but this probably wouldn't help minorities (those who break less often broken but still bad laws). Therefore, we should still be critical of all laws, and focus on reducing their number to a minimum. Personally, I believe that 99% of laws and regulations do more harm than good, and would get rid of them all. I don't really like the idea of a central government, and would prefer not have them enforce any law.
- JetSpiegel 9y ago
  > Imagine putting half the population in jail because they once consumed drugs, did not pay taxes on all income You don't need to imagine this, change some numbers around and you get the US. What is legal and what is moral are different things.
  - miguelrochefort 9y ago
    Systematically enforcing laws would put all kinds of people in jail (including lawmakers), not just racial minorities. Shouldn't we aim to reduce the gap between legality and morality?
- teddyh 9y ago
  > Systematically enforcing bad laws is probably the best way to emphasize their damage, and the fastest way to eliminate them. You don’t give any evidence for this, and practical experience seems to indicate the opposite – that the absolute enforcement of laws is what keep them in place.
  - mooreds 9y ago
    Case in point: the security theater at the TSA every time one flies.