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He waited until halfway through his lame duck term to "evolve" his views on marriage equality, only after critical mass has obviously been reached. You're shoc

He waited until halfway through his lame duck term to "evolve" his views on marriage equality, only after critical mass has obviously been reached. You're shocked that he didn't also stick his neck out for marijuana legalization, which didn't consistently pass the 50% polling threshold until just last year? Every time a Republican wins the White House, people instantly put on rose-colored glasses regarding the previous Democrat in office (e.g. Bill Clinton was Jesus during the Bush administration, and it was two decades before people started criticizing his criminal justice record). No, Obama didn't embrace drug decriminalization. He was too busy bombing Syria and expanding the surveillance state. "Better than the current guy" does not mean a politician was on the right side of everything.

muhfuhkuh 9y ago
But it does mean "better than the current guy", though. So, he is better. Better than the man before (who started the wars in the ME, but in the countries who didn't plan and execute 9/11 oddly), and better than the man after (who pals around and holds globes together with the country where 80% of the 9/11 terrorists were born).
- StevePerkins 9y ago
  Well "muhfukuh", I can't believe that Amy Adams didn't win the Golden Globes for "Arrival" this year. (I mean, if we're just latching on to a word or phrase in the previous post, to talk about things irrelevant to its point for cheap upvotes...)
  - jbooth 9y ago
    No, he actually went right after your implied (to me and muhfuhkah, at least) argument. Your argument is that we should aspire to merely "just better than the other guys", with the subtext that Democrats aren't really any better than Republicans. 'muhfuhkah' pointed out that it IS better. Which is worth pointing out in a two party system. We just watched a whole bunch of people make your same arguments, saying Obama wasn't perfect so whatever they're all the same, and as a result we elected a guy who's much worse in every possible way. Great job, everyone.
    - StevePerkins 9y ago
      You're reading too far into it (and "muhfuhka" is just Reddit-posting). Parent post was surprised that Obama did not legalize drugs. Presumably due to binary thinking ("correct" politician does "correct" thing, etc). But even in a two-party system, "correct" does not equal "perfect". It's dangerous to presume that a politician's beliefs and actions will always line up with your preference, just because he or she is not with the other party that you oppose. That is all. It is not even remotely a statement that all politicians and parties are equivalent. My sentence that he quoted from explicitly says the opposite, for pete's sake. You guys are just venting.
      - SippinLean 9y ago
        >Presumably due to binary thinking ("correct" politician does "correct" thing, etc) This is not a safe presumption. Michael Botticelli (former director of the drug czar’s office) came out and said that the administration was considering it, but it was too dangerous, politically. The Obama administration pushed lots of sentencing reform legislation, so it would follow that they might decriminalize cannabis as well. It's not just because they were democrats. >No, Obama didn't embrace drug decriminalization We can easily find examples to refute this, 2010's Fair Sentencing Act and Holder's 2013 memo regarding mandatory sentences in low-level drug cases come to mind.

muhfuhkuh 9y ago

But it does mean "better than the current guy", though. So, he is better. Better than the man before (who started the wars in the ME, but in the countries who didn't plan and execute 9/11 oddly), and better than the man after (who pals around and holds globes together with the country where 80% of the 9/11 terrorists were born).

StevePerkins 9y ago
Well "muhfukuh", I can't believe that Amy Adams didn't win the Golden Globes for "Arrival" this year. (I mean, if we're just latching on to a word or phrase in the previous post, to talk about things irrelevant to its point for cheap upvotes...)
- jbooth 9y ago
  No, he actually went right after your implied (to me and muhfuhkah, at least) argument. Your argument is that we should aspire to merely "just better than the other guys", with the subtext that Democrats aren't really any better than Republicans. 'muhfuhkah' pointed out that it IS better. Which is worth pointing out in a two party system. We just watched a whole bunch of people make your same arguments, saying Obama wasn't perfect so whatever they're all the same, and as a result we elected a guy who's much worse in every possible way. Great job, everyone.
  - StevePerkins 9y ago
    You're reading too far into it (and "muhfuhka" is just Reddit-posting). Parent post was surprised that Obama did not legalize drugs. Presumably due to binary thinking ("correct" politician does "correct" thing, etc). But even in a two-party system, "correct" does not equal "perfect". It's dangerous to presume that a politician's beliefs and actions will always line up with your preference, just because he or she is not with the other party that you oppose. That is all. It is not even remotely a statement that all politicians and parties are equivalent. My sentence that he quoted from explicitly says the opposite, for pete's sake. You guys are just venting.
    - SippinLean 9y ago
      >Presumably due to binary thinking ("correct" politician does "correct" thing, etc) This is not a safe presumption. Michael Botticelli (former director of the drug czar’s office) came out and said that the administration was considering it, but it was too dangerous, politically. The Obama administration pushed lots of sentencing reform legislation, so it would follow that they might decriminalize cannabis as well. It's not just because they were democrats. >No, Obama didn't embrace drug decriminalization We can easily find examples to refute this, 2010's Fair Sentencing Act and Holder's 2013 memo regarding mandatory sentences in low-level drug cases come to mind.