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No, i am saying that at the height of gamersgate there seemed to be a mob of people that went around harassing (trolling if you will) the people involved simply
by digi_owl 9y ago
No, i am saying that at the height of gamersgate there seemed to be a mob of people that went around harassing (trolling if you will) the people involved simply because they found doing so amusing.
And gamersgate lost media attention, my impression that a sizeable chunk of that mob has latched onto systemd as their target.
The problem is that the people being harassed can't separate the harassers from the people voicing actual complaints, lumping them all into the trolls/haters bin.
And frankly gamersgate was just the "peak" of a sorts, the root of it all lay further back. It is basically a mutated, nastier, form of the antics done under the "anonymous" moniker.
- dijit 9y ago"Gamer gate" has absolutely nothing to do with legitimate criticisms of systemd. I am not a gamer, I have never trolled. I am a sysadmin in an 11,000+ person organisation and I have qualms with systemd. And frankly speaking, proponents of systemd usually fobbed us off by saying that we're dinosaurs. Or intentionally misrepresenting our arguments. Now we're being fobbed off as being some weird gaming industry crap? No.
- digi_owl 9y agoNow you are misrepresenting what i am saying. I think there are legitimate complaints against systemd. but at the same time i also think there is harassment going on. From our side of the fence it is easy to tell the two apart. But from the systemd developer side, and apparently also the systemd proponent side, the two intermix. This akin to how hooligans join protest marches simply to start fights and riots, knowing it will be blamed on the legitimate protesters.
- baybal2 9y agoI see no reason not to hound out bad people from the developer community. It is a legitimate reaction to people whose offence goes far beyond writing bad software. 1) while being adult men in their prime, they spare no time running coordinated trolling campaigns not unlike people from places like 4chan. This is sick; 2) They attempt to outshout and bury valid criticism online and offline, responding with ad hominem attacks to very correct, purely technical articles; 3) Purposefully derailing conversations pointing to all aforementioned; 4) Aggressive advocacy - leveraging their their network of influence to sabotage 3rd party software by intentionally breaking compatibility. I have no different words other than "waging war" for what SystemD and RedHat do to Linux development community