3 ms·

Counterpoint: bowing to the collective social shaming buys the individual no "points", as is evidenced by this tread full of vultures questioning his motives.

Counterpoint: bowing to the collective social shaming buys the individual no "points", as is evidenced by this tread full of vultures questioning his motives. Instead we've created a culture where the only logical move is to deny deny deny even in the face of overwhelming evidence because the only thing the modern left hates more than "creep" is a loser.

macspoofing 9y ago
>Counterpoint: bowing to the collective social shaming buys the individual no "points", as is evidenced by this tread full of vultures questioning his motives. The cynics in this thread (myself included) are not the target of this self-flagellation.
politician 9y ago
An interesting game theory observation. Moving past the judgements regarding the sincerity of his apology, it'd be interesting to learn the various constiuences' ideas of acceptable outcomes at this point.
wfo 9y ago
Counterpoint: his apology was not a calculated tactic to garner goodwill for nefarious purposes so he therefore does not care what "points" he will, by your judgement, gain. It was an honest, human attempt to do the right thing. Or was it? Perhaps you're suggesting he's incapable of even having a desire to do the right thing and instead is totally consumed by selfish sociopathy? It's a serious and damning psychoanalytic allegation to make, not one that I would make from afar. Perhaps you think everyone behaves this way as some sort of justification for his actions? Happily I'll inform you that they don't. What you call "logic" (i.e. pausing, removing all thoughts about morality from your head and taking a moment to refuse to think of others as human beings worthy of consideration and respect, rather, only considering what you personally will gain from a given situation and letting this heuristic drive your decisions completely) describes very few human interactions.
deleted 9y ago
[deleted]

macspoofing 9y ago

>Counterpoint: bowing to the collective social shaming buys the individual no "points", as is evidenced by this tread full of vultures questioning his motives. The cynics in this thread (myself included) are not the target of this self-flagellation.

politician 9y ago

An interesting game theory observation. Moving past the judgements regarding the sincerity of his apology, it'd be interesting to learn the various constiuences' ideas of acceptable outcomes at this point.

wfo 9y ago

Counterpoint: his apology was not a calculated tactic to garner goodwill for nefarious purposes so he therefore does not care what "points" he will, by your judgement, gain. It was an honest, human attempt to do the right thing. Or was it? Perhaps you're suggesting he's incapable of even having a desire to do the right thing and instead is totally consumed by selfish sociopathy? It's a serious and damning psychoanalytic allegation to make, not one that I would make from afar. Perhaps you think everyone behaves this way as some sort of justification for his actions? Happily I'll inform you that they don't. What you call "logic" (i.e. pausing, removing all thoughts about morality from your head and taking a moment to refuse to think of others as human beings worthy of consideration and respect, rather, only considering what you personally will gain from a given situation and letting this heuristic drive your decisions completely) describes very few human interactions.

deleted 9y ago

[deleted]