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Loses his job. Major strike on his career. National public shaming. I'm gonna click the link and go see what murderous crime he committed.

• ben_jones 9y ago
  We send people to jail for decades for selling weed. Our sense of justice in this country is perverted. I honestly believe many people would support imprisonment, ostracization, or worse, for this person instead of rehab or similar paths.
• geofft 9y ago
  People lose their job for all sorts of reasons, no crime necessary. If you're going to worry about people losing their jobs, why don't we start by talking about everyone laid off at Etsy, and importantly, the college kids who were informed two weeks before their internship started that no such internship existed any more? As for career and public shame: he's had a wildly successful career and significant public praise in his lifetime. I think he can deal with it. As I wrote in another thread, take a look at Brendan Eich. If losing your job and being publicly shamed leads to being in charge of a well-funded, well-respected growing startup with a real product (plus whatever net worth he has from his previous employment, none of which was taken from him), I would like to know how to sign up to be publicly shamed like that.
  • Aron 9y ago
    i.e. 'if they are powerful, nothing done to them can be called injustice' progressive.
    • geofft 9y ago
      As with most things in real life, my thoughts here are quite a bit more complex than a half-sentence inaccurate absurdist reduction plus an unrelated political label at the end. Are you interested in having discussions involving multiple complete sentences, or have I wasted my time replying?
      • Aron 9y ago
        With power comes great responsibility. If we want to move forward with the changes we want to see in the tech culture to something more hospitable to all, we need to highlight those people most responsible for shaping it when they behave poorly. It's inappropriate to be overly concerned about how the offending party is punished since they will likely recover and improve as people in the process. Or even in the case where this is not true, the benefit to the many of calling out their behavior is far more important. And anyway, losing your job and going through an apology/shaming shitstorm is not really that big a deal for someone with his resume. There are plenty of examples of people that went on to better things subsequently.
    • saghm 9y ago
      I think it's more that on the scale of how injust something can be, this just doesn't seem up there enough to be worth getting upset over.