> Socialism is when the state provides something for the people No, socialism has nothing to do with the state. It just describes a social-economic system whe

> Socialism is when the state provides something for the people No, socialism has nothing to do with the state. It just describes a social-economic system where workers collectively own the capital goods they use to produce value, rather than members of the capitalist class. This is why kibbutzes could be described as "socialist" despite being entirely private and not related to the Israeli state. Social democracy and "welfare states" are what you're thinking of.