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I keep a 100% wall between work and personal life for a reason. Anyone I'm doing business with I see at best as a coworker or business acquaintance, so there is

I keep a 100% wall between work and personal life for a reason. Anyone I'm doing business with I see at best as a coworker or business acquaintance, so there is no risk of merging those two realms. If you are powerful man or woman, you should be aware that people who know who you are treat you differently. This Dave McClure guy actually thought all these women were into him purely because he was some amazing dude and not because he could finance their dreams. What a moron

madeofpalk 9y ago
Isn't there only a risk because you're a creep? My best friends have been those that I've worked with and never once has that been a problem for me because I know how to be an appropriate human being.
- protomyth 9y ago
  > Isn't there only a risk because you're a creep? No, blackmail is possible also. Obviously, you have to be worth blackmailing, but some people have some low standards for rewards.
protomyth 9y ago
Not commenting on this case, but Billy Graham, after seeing what happened to other well know preachers, was never alone with any woman except his wife Ruth. It is a pretty good strategy. Today, a powerful person could probably enhance his/her personal security by having an assistant with an always on camera like some police forces use.
- bdcravens 9y ago
  He may have been protecting himself from others, but also protecting himself from himself? I don't feel Billy Graham was eager to cheat, but he recognized his potential for giving in to temptation, and made specific choices ahead of time to minimize his risk.
  - protomyth 9y ago
    He saw a lot in his life, and I would imagine that the stare into the abyss line was in his mind. I get the feeling that he was not really tempted to cheat himself (unlike some other that can be named), but was very conscious of a scandal. For other, maybe in this case, having people around you to get you away from trouble is also an excellent idea. In a position of power, a person should also be conscious to the effects on all the people who depend on you. If you have a drinking problem, perhaps a constant sober coach is a good idea. Having a person to make sure you don't get personal with other might follow along those lines. Like a lot of things in life, it is a two front war. Are you protected against some external agent, and are you protected from yourself. Some will only need one type of protection, but if you are in a position where people depend on you, then you should be honest, at least with yourself, and make some good choices.
  - 2muchcoffeeman 9y ago
    > He may have been protecting himself from others, but also protecting himself from himself? Does it matter? The fact is, if you are a man in a position of power, never being alone in a room with a woman you don't know very well, is starting to sound like a reasonable strategy. People in other threads have said, that limiting your one-on-ones with women, inhibits their opportunities (perhaps we should not have one-on-ones at all to make that fair). But when there are other people in your life that you need to "protect" from any scandals, I really can't blame these men for picking their loved ones and reputations over "social justice". This is one of those "going to get worse before it gets better" things.
- CurtMonash 9y ago
  VPOTUS Mike Pence takes the same approach. This makes it tough for him to give important jobs to women, at least ones who would have to work closely with him. That is not a good thing.
  - protomyth 9y ago
    I would need actual proof that it makes it tough. Having a trusted assistant in the room, always, is not exactly a logistical problem. I'm trying to think of a work situation where it is imperative for two people and only two people to be alone. Seems like a bad thing even for M-M. I agree its not a good thing, but its the way of a world where accusation is treated as fact and put on the front page and the retraction is somewhere inside the paper in small type.
tormeh 9y ago
>What a moron People usually fall for these lies (whether of their own invention or others) because they want to believe. It's more like a cognitive bias than a lack of IQ.

madeofpalk 9y ago

Isn't there only a risk because you're a creep? My best friends have been those that I've worked with and never once has that been a problem for me because I know how to be an appropriate human being.

protomyth 9y ago
> Isn't there only a risk because you're a creep? No, blackmail is possible also. Obviously, you have to be worth blackmailing, but some people have some low standards for rewards.

protomyth 9y ago

Not commenting on this case, but Billy Graham, after seeing what happened to other well know preachers, was never alone with any woman except his wife Ruth. It is a pretty good strategy. Today, a powerful person could probably enhance his/her personal security by having an assistant with an always on camera like some police forces use.

bdcravens 9y ago
He may have been protecting himself from others, but also protecting himself from himself? I don't feel Billy Graham was eager to cheat, but he recognized his potential for giving in to temptation, and made specific choices ahead of time to minimize his risk.
- protomyth 9y ago
  He saw a lot in his life, and I would imagine that the stare into the abyss line was in his mind. I get the feeling that he was not really tempted to cheat himself (unlike some other that can be named), but was very conscious of a scandal. For other, maybe in this case, having people around you to get you away from trouble is also an excellent idea. In a position of power, a person should also be conscious to the effects on all the people who depend on you. If you have a drinking problem, perhaps a constant sober coach is a good idea. Having a person to make sure you don't get personal with other might follow along those lines. Like a lot of things in life, it is a two front war. Are you protected against some external agent, and are you protected from yourself. Some will only need one type of protection, but if you are in a position where people depend on you, then you should be honest, at least with yourself, and make some good choices.
- 2muchcoffeeman 9y ago
  > He may have been protecting himself from others, but also protecting himself from himself? Does it matter? The fact is, if you are a man in a position of power, never being alone in a room with a woman you don't know very well, is starting to sound like a reasonable strategy. People in other threads have said, that limiting your one-on-ones with women, inhibits their opportunities (perhaps we should not have one-on-ones at all to make that fair). But when there are other people in your life that you need to "protect" from any scandals, I really can't blame these men for picking their loved ones and reputations over "social justice". This is one of those "going to get worse before it gets better" things.
CurtMonash 9y ago
VPOTUS Mike Pence takes the same approach. This makes it tough for him to give important jobs to women, at least ones who would have to work closely with him. That is not a good thing.
- protomyth 9y ago
  I would need actual proof that it makes it tough. Having a trusted assistant in the room, always, is not exactly a logistical problem. I'm trying to think of a work situation where it is imperative for two people and only two people to be alone. Seems like a bad thing even for M-M. I agree its not a good thing, but its the way of a world where accusation is treated as fact and put on the front page and the retraction is somewhere inside the paper in small type.

tormeh 9y ago

>What a moron People usually fall for these lies (whether of their own invention or others) because they want to believe. It's more like a cognitive bias than a lack of IQ.