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There is an implication in your message here: government can do no wrong. Or, at the very least, "this government is the best we got and I'm willing to sacrifi

There is an implication in your message here: government can do no wrong. Or, at the very least, "this government is the best we got and I'm willing to sacrifice a lot to see my government does its good works." But I just made a 360° slam dunk of an argument that pops your best/good-works bubble: 7 providers, no competition, no market forces, wildly expensive care - all demonstrably because of bad laws and cronyism in government. Will you un-360° slam dunk my argument now, please?

tonyedgecombe 9y ago
There is no such implication in my message.
- EdSharkey 9y ago
  No? My bad. I thought we were 1-dimensionalizing one another like tribalists rather than having a rational argument. Perhaps you do have something to contribute? I shall give you the benefit of the doubt that you are a razor sharp intellect and a force to be reckoned with. Here's how I was able to get there in a split second. Perhaps, JUST PERHAPS, you can analyze yourself for similar flaws: "He tossed out Ayn Rand, probably never read her. Ugh, what a bore he must be at parties! So he's a progressive thinker. His weaknesses are a bias towards government, a lack of critical thinking, and a victim mentality. Can't do anything about the victimhood, he needs a shrink for that. Okay, attack his center by opposing his faith in government with the epic fail that is the rigged U.S. health care system." I know nothing about you and did no research, so the chances any of those assumptions were right are close to nil. That kind of wretched thinking about someone I don't know is not only unproductive, but psychologically harmful to me. (Which is why I try to avoid it.) But as you can see, it's easy for me to let my brat out of his cage. I think your problem is you assume you're right and you're indignant when someone challenges your beliefs to the point of being emotional about it. You don't feel the need to present an opposing argument with any detail, which is a shame since you probably have wisdom to share. (EDIT: oops, my brat is still off his leash...)
  - tonyedgecombe 9y ago
    >Perhaps you do have something to contribute? Stopped reading at that point.
    - EdSharkey 9y ago
      I hope that's not true, this could be catharsis for you. You can't win the debate if you don't attend.

tonyedgecombe 9y ago

There is no such implication in my message.

EdSharkey 9y ago
No? My bad. I thought we were 1-dimensionalizing one another like tribalists rather than having a rational argument. Perhaps you do have something to contribute? I shall give you the benefit of the doubt that you are a razor sharp intellect and a force to be reckoned with. Here's how I was able to get there in a split second. Perhaps, JUST PERHAPS, you can analyze yourself for similar flaws: "He tossed out Ayn Rand, probably never read her. Ugh, what a bore he must be at parties! So he's a progressive thinker. His weaknesses are a bias towards government, a lack of critical thinking, and a victim mentality. Can't do anything about the victimhood, he needs a shrink for that. Okay, attack his center by opposing his faith in government with the epic fail that is the rigged U.S. health care system." I know nothing about you and did no research, so the chances any of those assumptions were right are close to nil. That kind of wretched thinking about someone I don't know is not only unproductive, but psychologically harmful to me. (Which is why I try to avoid it.) But as you can see, it's easy for me to let my brat out of his cage. I think your problem is you assume you're right and you're indignant when someone challenges your beliefs to the point of being emotional about it. You don't feel the need to present an opposing argument with any detail, which is a shame since you probably have wisdom to share. (EDIT: oops, my brat is still off his leash...)
- tonyedgecombe 9y ago
  >Perhaps you do have something to contribute? Stopped reading at that point.
  - EdSharkey 9y ago
    I hope that's not true, this could be catharsis for you. You can't win the debate if you don't attend.