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You surely could find a definition which isn't intermixed with propaganda.

by qb45 9y ago

xor1 9y ago
People aren't really interested in discussing the issue or taking it seriously because it exposes a vulnerability in their platform, and they can't handle that. All of my comments have been flagged even after the thread was detached, and only one person followed through in a response chain. Shrug.
- DanBC 9y ago
  You're mistaken. Your comments border on bigotry. People don't want to engage with someone who has a closed mind. Pretty much everything you've said about borderline PD is fucking nonsense. There's no point responding to someone who so clearly demonstrates they don't know what they're talking about. None of the stuff you've mentioned has any link to borderline personality disorder. If you're going to use mental health diagnoses you should 1) use the right one and 2) probably just not. In general when you find yourself saying stuff like "the Jews did it" or "Asians can't drive" or "black people can't swim" or "borderlines ..." You should probably not bother. For anyone who wants to learn more about what borderline personality disorder is I recommend "Meeting the Challenge, Making a Difference". http://www.crisiscareconcordat.org.uk/inspiration/meeting-the-challenge-making-a-difference/ http://www.crisiscareconcordat.org.uk/inspiration/meeting-th... People with BPD experience significant stigma. Not just from the general population but from health professionals, including mental health professionals too.
  - xor1 9y ago
    >People don't want to engage with someone who has a closed mind. Except I don't have a closed mind, and I always follow through on response chains in discussions. I am more than willing to allow you to convince me. >Pretty much everything you've said about borderline PD is fucking nonsense. Not in my experience. >In general when you find yourself saying stuff like "the Jews did it" or "Asians can't drive" or "black people can't swim" or "borderlines ..." You should probably not bother. Ok, this is an EXTREME strawman. Comparing it to racism? Really? >For anyone who wants to learn more about what borderline personality disorder is I recommend "Meeting the Challenge, Making a Difference". I just took a quick look. This isn't a resource about BPD, it's about all personality disorders, and scanning through the book for references about Borderline mainly brings up discussion about treatment, and not the actual harm that borderlines inflict on other people. Point me to a specific page or section if you'd like, maybe I missed something. You seem like a borderline apologist to me. I don't understand why people like you exist, to be honest. You know what I consider an apt comparison? Borderlines and pedophiles. Neither of them can help themselves, they both need treatment, yet they still cause devastation as they act out on their conditions, and they don't deserve a pass from society or the legal system. >People with BPD experience significant stigma. Not just from the general population but from health professionals, including mental health professionals too. Would you be so kind as to explain to me why you think this is the case? I have my own thoughts in regards to this, of course. I just want to hear yours, and possibly be convinced that I'm being unfair.
  - soineuh 9y ago
    If this a professional opinion: You are complicit in a great deal of harm, and if you've come to this conclusion after thorough research and consideration, you should consider a different profession. If this is a sentiment borne of personal association: She's going to burn you, brother. Leave now.
cbhl 9y ago
I don't actually know of any good external resources for defining "derail" in this context. I learned about the concept through work, and didn't want to just blatantly copy-and-paste that document into HN. I did about five minutes of Google searching. Pointers would be appreciated.
- qb45 9y ago
  I googled "derail thread". http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=derailing%20a%20thread http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=derailing%20a... The act of throwing a thread in a discussion forum off topic, oftentimes so much so that the original discussion is unable to continue.

You surely could find a definition which isn't intermixed with propaganda.

by qb45 9y ago

You surely could find a definition which isn't intermixed with propaganda.

xor1 9y ago

People aren't really interested in discussing the issue or taking it seriously because it exposes a vulnerability in their platform, and they can't handle that. All of my comments have been flagged even after the thread was detached, and only one person followed through in a response chain. Shrug.

DanBC 9y ago
You're mistaken. Your comments border on bigotry. People don't want to engage with someone who has a closed mind. Pretty much everything you've said about borderline PD is fucking nonsense. There's no point responding to someone who so clearly demonstrates they don't know what they're talking about. None of the stuff you've mentioned has any link to borderline personality disorder. If you're going to use mental health diagnoses you should 1) use the right one and 2) probably just not. In general when you find yourself saying stuff like "the Jews did it" or "Asians can't drive" or "black people can't swim" or "borderlines ..." You should probably not bother. For anyone who wants to learn more about what borderline personality disorder is I recommend "Meeting the Challenge, Making a Difference". http://www.crisiscareconcordat.org.uk/inspiration/meeting-the-challenge-making-a-difference/ http://www.crisiscareconcordat.org.uk/inspiration/meeting-th... People with BPD experience significant stigma. Not just from the general population but from health professionals, including mental health professionals too.
- xor1 9y ago
  >People don't want to engage with someone who has a closed mind. Except I don't have a closed mind, and I always follow through on response chains in discussions. I am more than willing to allow you to convince me. >Pretty much everything you've said about borderline PD is fucking nonsense. Not in my experience. >In general when you find yourself saying stuff like "the Jews did it" or "Asians can't drive" or "black people can't swim" or "borderlines ..." You should probably not bother. Ok, this is an EXTREME strawman. Comparing it to racism? Really? >For anyone who wants to learn more about what borderline personality disorder is I recommend "Meeting the Challenge, Making a Difference". I just took a quick look. This isn't a resource about BPD, it's about all personality disorders, and scanning through the book for references about Borderline mainly brings up discussion about treatment, and not the actual harm that borderlines inflict on other people. Point me to a specific page or section if you'd like, maybe I missed something. You seem like a borderline apologist to me. I don't understand why people like you exist, to be honest. You know what I consider an apt comparison? Borderlines and pedophiles. Neither of them can help themselves, they both need treatment, yet they still cause devastation as they act out on their conditions, and they don't deserve a pass from society or the legal system. >People with BPD experience significant stigma. Not just from the general population but from health professionals, including mental health professionals too. Would you be so kind as to explain to me why you think this is the case? I have my own thoughts in regards to this, of course. I just want to hear yours, and possibly be convinced that I'm being unfair.
- soineuh 9y ago
  If this a professional opinion: You are complicit in a great deal of harm, and if you've come to this conclusion after thorough research and consideration, you should consider a different profession. If this is a sentiment borne of personal association: She's going to burn you, brother. Leave now.

cbhl 9y ago

I don't actually know of any good external resources for defining "derail" in this context. I learned about the concept through work, and didn't want to just blatantly copy-and-paste that document into HN. I did about five minutes of Google searching. Pointers would be appreciated.

qb45 9y ago
I googled "derail thread". http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=derailing%20a%20thread http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=derailing%20a... The act of throwing a thread in a discussion forum off topic, oftentimes so much so that the original discussion is unable to continue.