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something I've never understood. These guys (Kalanick, McClure) are multi millionaires, and could probably get any number of women to take interest in them on

something I've never understood. These guys (Kalanick, McClure) are multi millionaires, and could probably get any number of women to take interest in them on that basis alone. Why risk career suicide? Why would they need to hit on women at their workplaces? Why isn't the normal dating game (where they have a massive edge via being loaded) sufficient? I don't get it (at all). What am I missing? These guys seem to be (borderline) insane and incapable of rational thought. At the workplace do the work! Leave the political/religious/mating etc games outside.

dotmanish 9y ago
> These guys (Kalanick, McClure) are multi millionaires, and could probably get any number of women to take interest in them on that basis alone. General psychology pattern: People run after what can't be easily gained. Entrepreneurs, more so.
- plinkplonk 9y ago
  Ah good point. I never thought about it like that. Thanks.
crispytx 9y ago
I don't think that's fair to lump Travis Kalanick into the same boat as Dave McClure. Kalanick didn't sexually harass anyone personally, his subordinates did. There isn't really any evidence that Travis Kalanick tried to cover anything up either. If you read that Susan Fowler blog post regarding sexual harassment at Uber, it sounds like she was sexually harassed by one person, and the HR department wouldn't do anything about it. To me that sounds like the harasser and the HR department are the guilty parties, not Travis Kalanick.
- plinkplonk 9y ago
  I concede the point (and it is a good one, Thank You). I don't follow this stuff in any great detail and those are just the first names I thought of. Erroneously, as it turned out, and as you correctly point out. Fwiw, I am not really interested in "social justice" issues and I use this forum mainly to get insight into purely technical issues, and I really should keep out of such politically/ideologically charged threads. Note to self. Thanks again. (me exits thread and topic)
R_haterade 9y ago
Oh sweet summerchild.
timcederman 9y ago
> get any number of women to take interest in them on that basis alone Seriously?
- plinkplonk 9y ago
  Yes seriously. Are you implying that tremendously rich men (barring mental illnesses / crippling social anxiety) are disadvantaged with respect to dating? Or even that being tremendously rich is not a factor at all? If so, I'll have some of what you are smoking. The people under discussion are men(if you are objecting to the use of 'men' vs 'people'. I specifically used Kalanick and McClure as examples). This also applies to rich vs poor women. It also applies irrespective of whether you are hetero, homo, bi, or * sexual. Being tremendously rich makes success in all kinds of apparently unrelated fields easier. Yes, you'll probably attract a good number of gold diggers, but excluding those explicitly targeting your money, in every society in the world, being rich(/powerful/famous) makes you more desirable in the mating game. Perhaps in an ideal world, it shouldn't work like that, but that is a different point.
  - morgante 9y ago
    Being a billionaire definitely helps, but it's not really a massive advantage to be a multimillionaire. I have a few wealthy friends (single digit millionaires) who still struggle with dating.
    - parsnipsumthing 9y ago
      Seriously? Why? Do they expect young supermodels to date them?
      - pm90 9y ago
        You seem to be a little naive when it comes to dating. Money by itself doesn't guarantee good partnership. There's also: personality, physical attractiveness, compatibility etc.
7952 9y ago
You could flip it around and ask why people have this career at all. Maybe they like to have this kind of power over people. Everyone has a mix of motivations, some of which are not particularly becoming. Managers have to be aware of that and work around their more instinctive feelings.
pm90 9y ago
Its called abusing power. And a lot of people who find a lot of overnight success unfortunately don't realize the responsibilities that come with having more money and power.

dotmanish 9y ago

> These guys (Kalanick, McClure) are multi millionaires, and could probably get any number of women to take interest in them on that basis alone. General psychology pattern: People run after what can't be easily gained. Entrepreneurs, more so.

plinkplonk 9y ago
Ah good point. I never thought about it like that. Thanks.

crispytx 9y ago

I don't think that's fair to lump Travis Kalanick into the same boat as Dave McClure. Kalanick didn't sexually harass anyone personally, his subordinates did. There isn't really any evidence that Travis Kalanick tried to cover anything up either. If you read that Susan Fowler blog post regarding sexual harassment at Uber, it sounds like she was sexually harassed by one person, and the HR department wouldn't do anything about it. To me that sounds like the harasser and the HR department are the guilty parties, not Travis Kalanick.

plinkplonk 9y ago
I concede the point (and it is a good one, Thank You). I don't follow this stuff in any great detail and those are just the first names I thought of. Erroneously, as it turned out, and as you correctly point out. Fwiw, I am not really interested in "social justice" issues and I use this forum mainly to get insight into purely technical issues, and I really should keep out of such politically/ideologically charged threads. Note to self. Thanks again. (me exits thread and topic)

R_haterade 9y ago

Oh sweet summerchild.

timcederman 9y ago

> get any number of women to take interest in them on that basis alone Seriously?

plinkplonk 9y ago
Yes seriously. Are you implying that tremendously rich men (barring mental illnesses / crippling social anxiety) are disadvantaged with respect to dating? Or even that being tremendously rich is not a factor at all? If so, I'll have some of what you are smoking. The people under discussion are men(if you are objecting to the use of 'men' vs 'people'. I specifically used Kalanick and McClure as examples). This also applies to rich vs poor women. It also applies irrespective of whether you are hetero, homo, bi, or * sexual. Being tremendously rich makes success in all kinds of apparently unrelated fields easier. Yes, you'll probably attract a good number of gold diggers, but excluding those explicitly targeting your money, in every society in the world, being rich(/powerful/famous) makes you more desirable in the mating game. Perhaps in an ideal world, it shouldn't work like that, but that is a different point.
- morgante 9y ago
  Being a billionaire definitely helps, but it's not really a massive advantage to be a multimillionaire. I have a few wealthy friends (single digit millionaires) who still struggle with dating.
  - parsnipsumthing 9y ago
    Seriously? Why? Do they expect young supermodels to date them?
    - pm90 9y ago
      You seem to be a little naive when it comes to dating. Money by itself doesn't guarantee good partnership. There's also: personality, physical attractiveness, compatibility etc.

7952 9y ago

You could flip it around and ask why people have this career at all. Maybe they like to have this kind of power over people. Everyone has a mix of motivations, some of which are not particularly becoming. Managers have to be aware of that and work around their more instinctive feelings.

pm90 9y ago

Its called abusing power. And a lot of people who find a lot of overnight success unfortunately don't realize the responsibilities that come with having more money and power.