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outdated software stack ... no meaningful ML/AI strategy Yeah, because not being buzzwordy enough is just SO much more important than having meaningful produ

outdated software stack ... no meaningful ML/AI strategy Yeah, because not being buzzwordy enough is just SO much more important than having meaningful products and services that fulfill a vital role.

warent 9y ago
What exactly is "buzzwordy" about "software stack" or "ML"? This is legitimate jargon that means specific things. We use these terms routinely at Google internally.
- sgift 9y ago
  In context with 'strategy' it implies you need a "ML strategy" to somehow deliver value to customers. That's buzzwordy.
  - mattacular 9y ago
    They weren't saying every company needs an ML strategy they were saying Palantir does.
  - CydeWeys 9y ago
    In the context of the business area that Palantir is in, though, they absolutely do need machine learning to maximize the value of their product. Imagine trying to build a program to beat AlphaGo, or a search engine better than Google, or a best-in-breed image classifier, without using machine learning. You can't do it. Machine learning is a critically important technique that can solve problems better than anything else can. Palantir's work contains many such problems. Not using the best tool for the job, and not even having a roadmap to do so, means they're ripe for disruption by some other company coming along doing the work better. Machine learning isn't just some buzzword used to attract VC money. It really, truly, does work.
jsmthrowaway 9y ago
ML is extremely relevant to what Palantir does, particularly on the broad-scale analysis stuff they purport to do. Extremely relevant. It is surprising to read that they don't have a strategy -- not weighing in on whether that's accurate or passing judgment, just saying it's a more surprising observation than you're implying.
- nulldev 9y ago
  100%. I suspect the original statement is actually laden with a fair amount of bias : Palantir unequivocally does have an ML strategy given that they're selling data analysis in 2017. It's literally unthinkable that they don't. Whether that strategy is well reasoned and sophisticated is a completely different matter - but to imply that said strategy doesn't even exist is deeply misleading / straight up wrong.

warent 9y ago

What exactly is "buzzwordy" about "software stack" or "ML"? This is legitimate jargon that means specific things. We use these terms routinely at Google internally.

sgift 9y ago
In context with 'strategy' it implies you need a "ML strategy" to somehow deliver value to customers. That's buzzwordy.
- mattacular 9y ago
  They weren't saying every company needs an ML strategy they were saying Palantir does.
- CydeWeys 9y ago
  In the context of the business area that Palantir is in, though, they absolutely do need machine learning to maximize the value of their product. Imagine trying to build a program to beat AlphaGo, or a search engine better than Google, or a best-in-breed image classifier, without using machine learning. You can't do it. Machine learning is a critically important technique that can solve problems better than anything else can. Palantir's work contains many such problems. Not using the best tool for the job, and not even having a roadmap to do so, means they're ripe for disruption by some other company coming along doing the work better. Machine learning isn't just some buzzword used to attract VC money. It really, truly, does work.

jsmthrowaway 9y ago

ML is extremely relevant to what Palantir does, particularly on the broad-scale analysis stuff they purport to do. Extremely relevant. It is surprising to read that they don't have a strategy -- not weighing in on whether that's accurate or passing judgment, just saying it's a more surprising observation than you're implying.

nulldev 9y ago
100%. I suspect the original statement is actually laden with a fair amount of bias : Palantir unequivocally does have an ML strategy given that they're selling data analysis in 2017. It's literally unthinkable that they don't. Whether that strategy is well reasoned and sophisticated is a completely different matter - but to imply that said strategy doesn't even exist is deeply misleading / straight up wrong.