> I've begun work on a tutorial to get people up and running with Clojure, but I will be recommending Emacs in it. Oh no. I hope I do not come off as a troll b

> I've begun work on a tutorial to get people up and running with Clojure, but I will be recommending Emacs in it. Oh no. I hope I do not come off as a troll but this is exactly why I never could get started with any of the lisps. I can't stand emacs or netbeans or eclipse. This a personal taste for me but a very strong one. They all just feel wrong to me. Associating a sanctioned ide with a language is a bad idea. It brings unnecessary baggage for a new user. By closely associating your language to an ide and by having every tutorial throw it in my face, your community is just creating an unnecessary entry barrier for me. Please consider making the tutorial ide independent.