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So you don't understand why people like something and dismiss it as silly hipster bias? Does everything have to be about efficiency and logical superiority? Peo

by skciva 9y ago

So you don't understand why people like something and dismiss it as silly hipster bias? Does everything have to be about efficiency and logical superiority? People enjoy the experience more and are spending money on it. How horrible.

Frondo 9y ago
Agreed. Let people like what they like. My deal is, that goes both ways. I've owned record players in the past, I've grown a sizeable vinyl collection, and I ended up selling it off because I'm living a much more mobile lifestyle now. If the OP gets a more "active" experience (whatever that means to them) out of listening to a record instead of putting a CD in a cd player, great, but what bugs me is there's always an undercurrent of "it's better this way". No, man, you just like it more. It's not "better" than listening to songs on an ipod or putting a CD on. And all this talk about "it sounds better" or whatever, it all boils down to assigning objective measures to an experience that is, at its core, subjective. No, it's still just your preference. (Some people actually like the analogue tape sound. To them it's "better".) Let people like what they like.
- skciva 9y ago
  Yeah I think the "it sounds better" argument is silly. Personally I prefer records for these reasons: - If I want to share a record with a friend, theres a greater chance they'll just let it play as opposed to a bluetooth connected speaker, where everyone decides they want to be the DJ. - Having records often starts conversations. Its much more likely someone will see my records or ask to flip through them than say "Hey, can I peruse your Spotify library?" I like music and it's nice to connect about it without having to force a conversation with everyone I meet. That being said, I've often thought of living a "mobile" lifestyle like you mention, and if I do records would not be on my list of necessities.
ksk 9y ago
>So you don't understand why people like something and dismiss it as silly hipster bias? Yeah, it can seem annoying when someone does that to what you like, but all humans do this at some level. Its same thing as when someone insists that a $7,000 bottle of wine makes you sit down and have a personal experience with the wine, makes you appreciate the weight of the wine, its powerful robust swirling texture, and its assertive character. cue: eye-rolls >Does everything have to be about efficiency and logical superiority? No, but I bet you don't consult tarot cards before choosing your next job. >People enjoy the experience more and are spending money on it. How horrible. Agreed, leave people alone, people !!
- skciva 9y ago
  I see your point and won't pretend there isn't an air of pretentiousness surrounding some who purchase records. I think any hobby will have its fair share of smugness at the top. Also comparing listening to records as consulting tarot cards is a bit extreme don't you think?
  - ksk 9y ago
    >I see your point and won't pretend there isn't an air of pretentiousness surrounding some who purchase records. I was part of the smug audiophile brigade. Still bitter about buying those $700 headphones! >Also comparing listening to records as consulting tarot cards is a bit extreme don't you think? Hehe, yeah maybe a tad bit :)

by skciva 9y ago

Frondo 9y ago

Agreed. Let people like what they like. My deal is, that goes both ways. I've owned record players in the past, I've grown a sizeable vinyl collection, and I ended up selling it off because I'm living a much more mobile lifestyle now. If the OP gets a more "active" experience (whatever that means to them) out of listening to a record instead of putting a CD in a cd player, great, but what bugs me is there's always an undercurrent of "it's better this way". No, man, you just like it more. It's not "better" than listening to songs on an ipod or putting a CD on. And all this talk about "it sounds better" or whatever, it all boils down to assigning objective measures to an experience that is, at its core, subjective. No, it's still just your preference. (Some people actually like the analogue tape sound. To them it's "better".) Let people like what they like.

skciva 9y ago
Yeah I think the "it sounds better" argument is silly. Personally I prefer records for these reasons: - If I want to share a record with a friend, theres a greater chance they'll just let it play as opposed to a bluetooth connected speaker, where everyone decides they want to be the DJ. - Having records often starts conversations. Its much more likely someone will see my records or ask to flip through them than say "Hey, can I peruse your Spotify library?" I like music and it's nice to connect about it without having to force a conversation with everyone I meet. That being said, I've often thought of living a "mobile" lifestyle like you mention, and if I do records would not be on my list of necessities.

ksk 9y ago

>So you don't understand why people like something and dismiss it as silly hipster bias? Yeah, it can seem annoying when someone does that to what you like, but all humans do this at some level. Its same thing as when someone insists that a $7,000 bottle of wine makes you sit down and have a personal experience with the wine, makes you appreciate the weight of the wine, its powerful robust swirling texture, and its assertive character. cue: eye-rolls >Does everything have to be about efficiency and logical superiority? No, but I bet you don't consult tarot cards before choosing your next job. >People enjoy the experience more and are spending money on it. How horrible. Agreed, leave people alone, people !!

skciva 9y ago
I see your point and won't pretend there isn't an air of pretentiousness surrounding some who purchase records. I think any hobby will have its fair share of smugness at the top. Also comparing listening to records as consulting tarot cards is a bit extreme don't you think?
- ksk 9y ago
  >I see your point and won't pretend there isn't an air of pretentiousness surrounding some who purchase records. I was part of the smug audiophile brigade. Still bitter about buying those $700 headphones! >Also comparing listening to records as consulting tarot cards is a bit extreme don't you think? Hehe, yeah maybe a tad bit :)