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I really don't think that it should be a social media company's responsibility to police the internet. If a person posts something illegal, I think it should be

I really don't think that it should be a social media company's responsibility to police the internet. If a person posts something illegal, I think it should be that person that should be punished and it should be the job of the government/police/courts to do so. The social media company could then remove the content after that.

tmalsburg2 9y ago
I guess that's a valid stand point, but to be fair, analogous regulations are very common for other businesses, especially in the US. For example, bars have to make sure that their patrons do not smoke and that they have legal age. There are thousands of these regulations and they are rarely perceived as attacks on basic freedoms but rather seen as common sense. What is different about internet companies that they should not have the responsibility to enforce such rules on their premises?
- mirimir 9y ago
  It's one thing to "enforce such rules on their premises", as China does. But for each nation to impose its laws on the entire Internet? That's just insane. And won't end well.
  - DanBC 9y ago
    But you seem to be saying it's okay for US companies to impose the extremist version of freedom of speech that the US has on other nations. And that's not going to end well.
    - mirimir 9y ago
      I'm arguing for more freedom of speech than the US has.
  - tmalsburg2 9y ago
    The German law doesn't require Facebook to censor hate speech in other countries. But if Facebook wants to do business in Germany, they have to obey local law.
    - mirimir 9y ago
      Having different nation-specific versions of Facebook could get complicated, no? And what if a German accesses Facebook through a VPN with non-German IP address?
      - tmalsburg2 9y ago
        I don't think it's asking too much to require different country-specific versions of Facebook. It's simply the cost of doing business and very much standard in all other industries. If I want to sell electronics in the US, I have to comply with the local safety regulations which are different from those in other countries.
      - thinkloop 9y ago
        They do already, at minimum by supporting different languages.
        mirimir 9y ago
        That's simple. It just affects static stuff, but not user content.
      - germanier 9y ago
        Facebook somehow manages to show me German ads and trying Google to give me a non-Germany version is surprisingly hard. Netflix has another catalogue here than in other countries (and tries hard to block access to their foreign versions) because their right holders demand so. Why should a society accept lower standards than movie studios? Even if we can't get 100% reliability we shouldn't just give up completely.
        9y ago
privateprofile 9y ago
No one is asking fb to "police the internet", they are being asked to abide by the law and stop disregarding the distribution of illegal content within their property.

tmalsburg2 9y ago

I guess that's a valid stand point, but to be fair, analogous regulations are very common for other businesses, especially in the US. For example, bars have to make sure that their patrons do not smoke and that they have legal age. There are thousands of these regulations and they are rarely perceived as attacks on basic freedoms but rather seen as common sense. What is different about internet companies that they should not have the responsibility to enforce such rules on their premises?

mirimir 9y ago
It's one thing to "enforce such rules on their premises", as China does. But for each nation to impose its laws on the entire Internet? That's just insane. And won't end well.
- DanBC 9y ago
  But you seem to be saying it's okay for US companies to impose the extremist version of freedom of speech that the US has on other nations. And that's not going to end well.
  - mirimir 9y ago
    I'm arguing for more freedom of speech than the US has.
- tmalsburg2 9y ago
  The German law doesn't require Facebook to censor hate speech in other countries. But if Facebook wants to do business in Germany, they have to obey local law.
  - mirimir 9y ago
    Having different nation-specific versions of Facebook could get complicated, no? And what if a German accesses Facebook through a VPN with non-German IP address?
    - tmalsburg2 9y ago
      I don't think it's asking too much to require different country-specific versions of Facebook. It's simply the cost of doing business and very much standard in all other industries. If I want to sell electronics in the US, I have to comply with the local safety regulations which are different from those in other countries.
    - thinkloop 9y ago
      They do already, at minimum by supporting different languages.
      - mirimir 9y ago
        That's simple. It just affects static stuff, but not user content.
    - germanier 9y ago
      Facebook somehow manages to show me German ads and trying Google to give me a non-Germany version is surprisingly hard. Netflix has another catalogue here than in other countries (and tries hard to block access to their foreign versions) because their right holders demand so. Why should a society accept lower standards than movie studios? Even if we can't get 100% reliability we shouldn't just give up completely.
      - 9y ago

privateprofile 9y ago

No one is asking fb to "police the internet", they are being asked to abide by the law and stop disregarding the distribution of illegal content within their property.