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> it just wouldn't feel right to live on money that was forcefully taken from someone else You're going to be awfully disappointed when you learn how wealthy d

by CPLX 9y ago

> it just wouldn't feel right to live on money that was forcefully taken from someone else You're going to be awfully disappointed when you learn how wealthy developed nations were built.

Grustaf 9y ago
Namely?
- shinryuu 9y ago
  Like the US for instance. The British empire has a pretty dark past too.
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conanbatt 9y ago
I wouldnt confound humanities violent past with economic growth. Quite the oppposite, growth came in spite of such events. The 1900 century is a very clear demonstration of that.
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- toyg 9y ago
  Is it though? US growth during WW2 was enabled by physical destruction of most competition. The Cold War enabled technological advancement which wouldn't have happened otherwise (just look at space investment pre and post '92). Conflicts hold growth down only when you don't win them.
  - somecontext 9y ago
    > (just look at space investment pre and post '92) For some context for anyone curious about this, my summary of the tables at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_NASA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_NASA is the following: It appears that the average annual budget of NASA in both of the periods 1960--1992 and 1992--present is just under $20 billion present-USD per year (ie after adjusting for inflation). The time series behavior is that NASA's budget peaked in the 1960s for the Apollo program at over $40 billion present-USD/year (and so over 4% of the federal budget at the time), then was relatively smaller during the 1970s and 1980s, and finally slightly larger and relatively flat since 1990. Beginning in 1971, the annual budget may be summarized as within 25% of the aforementioned ~$19 billion present-USD/year, noting that the wide range primarily hides growth since then, rather than a decrease. (I have not looked into space investment other than NASA.)
  - conanbatt 9y ago
    Global GDP had a huge hit during the war, and after peace was achieved growth accelerated tremendously worldwide. The economic growth of both the US and Europe after the war was clearly thanks to peace, not thanks to the spoils of war.
ableton 9y ago
An eye for an eye and the whole world will go blind -Gandhi

by CPLX 9y ago

> it just wouldn't feel right to live on money that was forcefully taken from someone else You're going to be awfully disappointed when you learn how wealthy developed nations were built.

Grustaf 9y ago

Namely?

shinryuu 9y ago
Like the US for instance. The British empire has a pretty dark past too.
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conanbatt 9y ago

I wouldnt confound humanities violent past with economic growth. Quite the oppposite, growth came in spite of such events. The 1900 century is a very clear demonstration of that.

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toyg 9y ago
Is it though? US growth during WW2 was enabled by physical destruction of most competition. The Cold War enabled technological advancement which wouldn't have happened otherwise (just look at space investment pre and post '92). Conflicts hold growth down only when you don't win them.
- somecontext 9y ago
  > (just look at space investment pre and post '92) For some context for anyone curious about this, my summary of the tables at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_NASA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_NASA is the following: It appears that the average annual budget of NASA in both of the periods 1960--1992 and 1992--present is just under $20 billion present-USD per year (ie after adjusting for inflation). The time series behavior is that NASA's budget peaked in the 1960s for the Apollo program at over $40 billion present-USD/year (and so over 4% of the federal budget at the time), then was relatively smaller during the 1970s and 1980s, and finally slightly larger and relatively flat since 1990. Beginning in 1971, the annual budget may be summarized as within 25% of the aforementioned ~$19 billion present-USD/year, noting that the wide range primarily hides growth since then, rather than a decrease. (I have not looked into space investment other than NASA.)
- conanbatt 9y ago
  Global GDP had a huge hit during the war, and after peace was achieved growth accelerated tremendously worldwide. The economic growth of both the US and Europe after the war was clearly thanks to peace, not thanks to the spoils of war.

ableton 9y ago

An eye for an eye and the whole world will go blind -Gandhi