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Can we stop with "accusing someone" thread? I did no such thing yet you appear to be accusing me of that. I clearly and repeatedly said "I don't know". That's

Can we stop with "accusing someone" thread? I did no such thing yet you appear to be accusing me of that. I clearly and repeatedly said "I don't know". That's not accusing someone of something. And as for "posting it online for all to see", umm, it's right there in the search results. In the titles, you don't even have to click down one level. I didn't post that stuff, he did when he joined linkedin and all the other social/business stuff. The whole point of all that stuff is to advertise who you are and what you can do. All I did was say what his advertised career is and what his age is, something that any of us can get in 10 seconds. If that is crossing some line, that's a pretty arbitrary and pointless line. You are making it sound like I found his social security number and posted it and I did no such thing. This all could have been a non issue if tptacek did what most people would have done and said "I'm a nerd and I like reading papers about this stuff" or "my background includes this stuff". But he didn't, and hasn't, and that still feels weird to me. People who are into stuff typically love talking about it and that includes talking about why they love it, how they learned it, who they learned it from, etc. Something felt off. So I asked. If I, a software/hardware guy, was making claims that global warming isn't a thing someone would eventually ask how I knew that. This is exactly like that. And he hasn't answered that question. He could totally shut this whole thread down with a simple answer to a simple question. It's sort of strange he hasn't. I don't get it. Whatever, I gotta go, my stupid puppy is trying to eat my chickens.

sillysaurus3 9y ago
On the other hand, are we sure that there are not people here who are paid by Monsanto to push their agenda? I'm not saying that's the case here but I don't know. Insinuating that someone is a paid shill isn't allowed on HN. I know it seems harmless, but it's been a recurring problematic theme for years. The problem is that every time a shill insinuation comes up, there's almost no evidence. That leaves an unproductive conversation that goes nowhere but down. I know how frustrating it is to be the target of downvotes and flags, but it's a reaction to a long history of similar types of comments leading in negative directions. It's kept HN discussions interesting, so typically it's an asset for the site.
- luckydude 9y ago
  What part of "I don't know" do you not understand? I never said that he was paid by Monsanto, I just asked about his background. Because he was making strong statements that suggested he knew what he was talking about. So I asked about his background. What is his knowledge base? Which neither you, his buddy I'm guessing, or he, has answered. Why the heck not? Whatever. I've taken this up with hn@ycombinator.com and I'm so done with this. I'm just about done with hackernews over this thread. It's disgusting that it has gone this far, this is not what learning from each other or seeking the truth looks like, I have no desire to keep going if hackernews is going to look like Fox News. I came here to learn from the people here. This is not that. As my Dutch grandmother would say, you should be ashamed, you can do better.
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  - sillysaurus3 9y ago
    I didn't mean to antagonize -- just the opposite. It wasn't a good idea to volunteer info without you asking about it, and I see now why that angered you. I meant to address your questions directly and in detail, but apparently I missed the mark. The usual convention is to ignore threads like these, both to avoid misunderstandings like this and to keep off-topic threads short. I didn't want to just leave you wondering, hence the replies.
    - luckydude 9y ago
      And after all this, neither you nor your buddy has come forward with any "here is why I know this stuff". Can you see why this is a huge red flag? So much drama and no "I've got a clue". I'd love it if you or your buddy just shut me down with a huge pile of knowledge. Well? Show us. Shut me down.

sillysaurus3 9y ago

On the other hand, are we sure that there are not people here who are paid by Monsanto to push their agenda? I'm not saying that's the case here but I don't know. Insinuating that someone is a paid shill isn't allowed on HN. I know it seems harmless, but it's been a recurring problematic theme for years. The problem is that every time a shill insinuation comes up, there's almost no evidence. That leaves an unproductive conversation that goes nowhere but down. I know how frustrating it is to be the target of downvotes and flags, but it's a reaction to a long history of similar types of comments leading in negative directions. It's kept HN discussions interesting, so typically it's an asset for the site.

luckydude 9y ago
What part of "I don't know" do you not understand? I never said that he was paid by Monsanto, I just asked about his background. Because he was making strong statements that suggested he knew what he was talking about. So I asked about his background. What is his knowledge base? Which neither you, his buddy I'm guessing, or he, has answered. Why the heck not? Whatever. I've taken this up with hn@ycombinator.com and I'm so done with this. I'm just about done with hackernews over this thread. It's disgusting that it has gone this far, this is not what learning from each other or seeking the truth looks like, I have no desire to keep going if hackernews is going to look like Fox News. I came here to learn from the people here. This is not that. As my Dutch grandmother would say, you should be ashamed, you can do better.
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- sillysaurus3 9y ago
  I didn't mean to antagonize -- just the opposite. It wasn't a good idea to volunteer info without you asking about it, and I see now why that angered you. I meant to address your questions directly and in detail, but apparently I missed the mark. The usual convention is to ignore threads like these, both to avoid misunderstandings like this and to keep off-topic threads short. I didn't want to just leave you wondering, hence the replies.
  - luckydude 9y ago
    And after all this, neither you nor your buddy has come forward with any "here is why I know this stuff". Can you see why this is a huge red flag? So much drama and no "I've got a clue". I'd love it if you or your buddy just shut me down with a huge pile of knowledge. Well? Show us. Shut me down.