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> Sounds like a narrative that Beijing would very much support, Mr. New Account. I'm offering my opinion on this issue. If you don't agree with me on the real

> Sounds like a narrative that Beijing would very much support, Mr. New Account. I'm offering my opinion on this issue. If you don't agree with me on the real reason for HK's decline, explain your point, or pick holes in my arguments. I don't see how labeling what I said as "approved by Beijing" - disregard how ridiculous it is - automatically disqualifies them. Also, as to Mr. New Account, I use a throwaway account for the exact reason that I figured some people would get offended by what I said. > Get people to hate their local govt and appeal to a higher authority for support. Brilliant. The snarkiness in your comments really made me hesitant to reply, but if you are still interested in a civil discussion: please recheck what I wrote, and point out exact where I suggested Hong Kong people should hate their local government, and appeal to a higher authority.

unityByFreedom 9y ago
> point out exact where I suggested Hong Kong people should hate their local government, and appeal to a higher authority. That would be the first line I quoted. Not sure how you missed it. Here's another, > there was never any direct "order" from Beijing, well, sorta until recently, when Beijing began to see the failure of the local Hong Kong government. That's an unsubstantiated and unprovable claim. Also implies Beijing is benevolent. Nobody knows exactly what strings Beijing is pulling. It's hidden behind lack of free press and habit of politicians to never quite say exactly what they mean. > when the ruling rich saw the rebellion of lower class, without knowing/admitting themselves are to be blamed, they seek help from Beijing That's completely made up. You have no source showing "HK elite" sought Beijing's guidance. Honestly, your whole post is thick with "blame HK elite" instead of Beijing for whatever ails HK. Everyone knows Beijing isn't loved, so you throw in a dash of "Beijing only knows control", yet you point to them as being capable. The narrative you're pushing is really easy to discover.

unityByFreedom 9y ago

> point out exact where I suggested Hong Kong people should hate their local government, and appeal to a higher authority. That would be the first line I quoted. Not sure how you missed it. Here's another, > there was never any direct "order" from Beijing, well, sorta until recently, when Beijing began to see the failure of the local Hong Kong government. That's an unsubstantiated and unprovable claim. Also implies Beijing is benevolent. Nobody knows exactly what strings Beijing is pulling. It's hidden behind lack of free press and habit of politicians to never quite say exactly what they mean. > when the ruling rich saw the rebellion of lower class, without knowing/admitting themselves are to be blamed, they seek help from Beijing That's completely made up. You have no source showing "HK elite" sought Beijing's guidance. Honestly, your whole post is thick with "blame HK elite" instead of Beijing for whatever ails HK. Everyone knows Beijing isn't loved, so you throw in a dash of "Beijing only knows control", yet you point to them as being capable. The narrative you're pushing is really easy to discover.