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"holds passports or other documents in different names for no obvious reason" -- their spies are terrorists, wow "travels for long periods of time, but is vagu

"holds passports or other documents in different names for no obvious reason" -- their spies are terrorists, wow "travels for long periods of time, but is vague about where they're going" -- seriously?! Must every citizen post their travel itinerary now? "is visiting the dark web, or ordering unusual items online" -- well, they need to start arresting thousands if not millions of people -- also "unusual items" like what? When is something "unusual"? These UK Cops are spreading FUD and turning people, families, against each other.

jomkr 9y ago
I'm a liberal/hacker/software-engineer - you know the type, even joined the Pirate Party years ago. But am I the only one that doesn't have a problem with this. The set of people that visit the dark web intersects with the set of terrorists so obviously they should look into those people. >their spies are terrorists, wow Their spies are a special case. If you don't want to abide by the laws of the UK then nobody is forcing you to live here.
- techmagus 9y ago
  It's not about that but rather the way authorities worded it. They are the government so they have to be extra careful how they present their message because people, most probably, will take their message at face value. In this case, accessing dark web is a potential sign one is a terrorist or has connection to such activities. It's the same in any government, even more so to the "top ones" because other countries are using them as a "model" or "pattern" for their own use or version. (Although of course, it's not your country's problem.) From where I live, we're already battling this same mindset that "if you have nothing to hide, you don't need [1] encryption; [2] online privacy; [3] dark web; [4] anonymity. And in our neigbouring countries, it's much worse. We're not even "members" of the "Fourteen Eyes". :)
- ionised 9y ago
  > I'm a liberal/hacker/software-engineer - you know the type, even joined the Pirate Party years ago. The rest of your post makes this hard to believe. Some laws are dumb and should be broken. Most social progress throughout history has come from people breaking the law, civil disobedience and dissidence.
- xkcd-sucks 9y ago
  >If you don't want to abide by the laws of the UK then nobody is forcing you to live here. Oh please, this is just another way of saying "if you're disenfranchised you don't belong here." People born in the UK are absolutely forced to live there in the short term-- You need a passport to leave the country, and the means to afford resettlement.

jomkr 9y ago

I'm a liberal/hacker/software-engineer - you know the type, even joined the Pirate Party years ago. But am I the only one that doesn't have a problem with this. The set of people that visit the dark web intersects with the set of terrorists so obviously they should look into those people. >their spies are terrorists, wow Their spies are a special case. If you don't want to abide by the laws of the UK then nobody is forcing you to live here.

techmagus 9y ago
It's not about that but rather the way authorities worded it. They are the government so they have to be extra careful how they present their message because people, most probably, will take their message at face value. In this case, accessing dark web is a potential sign one is a terrorist or has connection to such activities. It's the same in any government, even more so to the "top ones" because other countries are using them as a "model" or "pattern" for their own use or version. (Although of course, it's not your country's problem.) From where I live, we're already battling this same mindset that "if you have nothing to hide, you don't need [1] encryption; [2] online privacy; [3] dark web; [4] anonymity. And in our neigbouring countries, it's much worse. We're not even "members" of the "Fourteen Eyes". :)
ionised 9y ago
> I'm a liberal/hacker/software-engineer - you know the type, even joined the Pirate Party years ago. The rest of your post makes this hard to believe. Some laws are dumb and should be broken. Most social progress throughout history has come from people breaking the law, civil disobedience and dissidence.
xkcd-sucks 9y ago
>If you don't want to abide by the laws of the UK then nobody is forcing you to live here. Oh please, this is just another way of saying "if you're disenfranchised you don't belong here." People born in the UK are absolutely forced to live there in the short term-- You need a passport to leave the country, and the means to afford resettlement.