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I am quite glad for heavy moderation on these topics, look at reddit for example, this kind of talk would quickly go off topic and devolve into mud slinging. T
by JauntyHatAngle 9y ago
I am quite glad for heavy moderation on these topics, look at reddit for example, this kind of talk would quickly go off topic and devolve into mud slinging.
There is certainly an odd dynamic on the "nerdy" websites when it comes to promoting the under-represented gender.
That said, comments like yours (and mine) are only adding to that problem. I guess I'm a hypocrite.
- worik 9y agoTotally agree about the need for moderation. I am not complaining! I am not sure how our comments are adding to the problem. We should not act as if there is no problem with prejudice and bigotry in society generally. Sexism and misogyny in technology in particular.
- worik 9y agoWhy are so many so afraid? Would they be afraid of a "Black Founders Conference"? What about men tackling issues like work/life balance and getting connections to their families? A "Men as Parents" conference? I am a long way away from San Francisco so I really have no idea what the ins and outs of the local culture are, but I see this same fear here. Not a nostalgia for old gender roles, but some sort of fear about being left out. It is changing, but has a long way to go.
- jshevek 9y agoI haven't yet seen any evidence of fear.
- colemickens 9y agoNot taking any sides, but this whole "HN is more mature than reddit on these topics" meme is wrong and out-dated. I mean, goodness, look at this thread (well, if you have showdead on at least).
- worik 9y agoExplain? "...look at this thread."
- sillysaurus3 9y agoIf you go into your profile settings and turn on the [showdead] option, you'll be able to see all of the comments that were flagkilled. That will give you a better picture of just how nasty a lot of them were.
- worik 9y agoThanks, I did not know about that. I am puzzled by some of the decisions. Whatever, up to the moderators how they moderate.
- kevinburke 9y agoIf a comment gets flagged by enough users or downvoted far enough it gets killed, that's what's been happening in a majority of cases on this post.
- Chris2048 9y agoIf the comments are dead, they are not representative, in fact, they are clearly exactly what the community rejects.
- colemickens 9y agoAnd, in my observations, similar toxic conversations and people acting in bad faith are downvoted on reddit. Who cares? My point was more that "at least we're better than reddit" is tacky. I don't think either of us are likely to objective make an assessment here either way on "toxicity of a topic on HN vs reddit".
- JauntyHatAngle 9y ago>And, in my observations, similar toxic conversations and people acting in bad faith are downvoted on reddit. I suppose I disagree with you there, as someone who hasn't used this website super much (about a year maybe?)and has been using reddit for about 5 years, HN seems much better to me in providing a longer, more concerted discussion. I didn't realise it was a meme though. But that's just a personal opinion.
- th4dv 9y ago> they are clearly exactly what the community rejects aka. "HN herd mentality." It feels me with sadness when I see the same trend over and over. People who have different opinions on certain political/social matters are being silenced by this whole "community rejects" bullshit.
- Chris2048 9y agoOk, forget "community" then. Point is, there is no agreed "The opinion of HN" in dead comments. dead comments are not representative in general of HN since the downvotes/flags outnumber the upvotes/vouches.
- mr_spothawk 9y agoThat presumes all members vote & have down vote privilege: which is not true in either case.
- Chris2048 9y ago> There is certainly an odd dynamic on the "nerdy" websites when it comes to promoting the under-represented gender. There have been plenty comments here discussing the "why", and the gist of it is the concept of "under-represented".