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> IMO, the future is likely not individuals in their autonomous cars. I think people will still want their own personal cars, because... > some of the good pa

by cr0sh 9y ago

> IMO, the future is likely not individuals in their autonomous cars. I think people will still want their own personal cars, because... > some of the good parts of trains and buses, and some of the good parts of Taxis ...they won't want to get the car with the drunk vomit urine and heavily graffitied and torn up interior. I can see how you could - via the hailing app or whatnot - send the car off as "undesired because XYZ" - and maybe it would go somewhere to get refurbed, but after a while, with so many refurbs, the companies will either give up, or they will make concessions (allowing for so much damage until it is deemed "needing repair" and cleaning it up as best as they can otherwise). People might also want personal cars as a quicker convenience, and also as a status symbol. There's also those who might want to ride around in a personalized custom car, much like people do today.

kbenson 9y ago
> I think people will still want their own personal cars, because... I'm not making a case people won't have their own cars, I just think it will be less common, and extremely less common to have two or more for a family. > ..they won't want to get the car with the drunk vomit urine and heavily graffitied and torn up interior. It's not like you don't know who was in the car that caused the problem, and can't have the whole day recorded for proof. Charge a cleanup fee, include video as proof. If it requires immediate cleaning and must be pulled off the road, charge them for the average income for that time as well. If it's in the agreement for the ride, you can auto charge the account/card as well, since that's how they paid in the first place. I think that's plenty of incentive to cut down on people not treating your vehicles well because there's no driver to call them out. > People might also want personal cars as a quicker convenience, and also as a status symbol. Sure. For the same reason people buy $100k+ cars. That's a somewhat small segment of the market. > There's also those who might want to ride around in a personalized custom car, much like people do today. Insurance will likely start to make that expensive. Sure, it will happen, but I think it will be less common. It's already an expensive hobby.
icebraining 9y ago
The cleanup problem really isn't, in my opinion. Riders get tracked in a way that's hard to avoid (since your account is tied to your CC), so when cars get sent off, the company can tag the previous passenger and identify outliers, who can then be forced to pay a surplus fee per ride, covering the extra costs.

by cr0sh 9y ago

kbenson 9y ago

> I think people will still want their own personal cars, because... I'm not making a case people won't have their own cars, I just think it will be less common, and extremely less common to have two or more for a family. > ..they won't want to get the car with the drunk vomit urine and heavily graffitied and torn up interior. It's not like you don't know who was in the car that caused the problem, and can't have the whole day recorded for proof. Charge a cleanup fee, include video as proof. If it requires immediate cleaning and must be pulled off the road, charge them for the average income for that time as well. If it's in the agreement for the ride, you can auto charge the account/card as well, since that's how they paid in the first place. I think that's plenty of incentive to cut down on people not treating your vehicles well because there's no driver to call them out. > People might also want personal cars as a quicker convenience, and also as a status symbol. Sure. For the same reason people buy $100k+ cars. That's a somewhat small segment of the market. > There's also those who might want to ride around in a personalized custom car, much like people do today. Insurance will likely start to make that expensive. Sure, it will happen, but I think it will be less common. It's already an expensive hobby.

icebraining 9y ago

The cleanup problem really isn't, in my opinion. Riders get tracked in a way that's hard to avoid (since your account is tied to your CC), so when cars get sent off, the company can tag the previous passenger and identify outliers, who can then be forced to pay a surplus fee per ride, covering the extra costs.