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Its not hostility... Its how do you think your streets, and roads, and all the other things that created your modern society are paid for. Anti Tax is a sham. Y

Its not hostility... Its how do you think your streets, and roads, and all the other things that created your modern society are paid for. Anti Tax is a sham. You want to just avail of everything free and not chip in for it? Would you rather be nickle and dimed for every single thing?

tracker1 9y ago
They don't have property taxes, vehicle licensing fees, or gasoline taxes?
- throwawaymanbot 9y ago
  Is this how you would fund the military and healthcare?? with property and gasoline taxes? how amusing. Excessive tax is a burden, fair enough. But "Tax is theft" fetishism is just a lack of the reality of how civilization happens and avoidance of societal responsibility. If you don't want to pay tax you should be micro charged for every single little thing you do, and pay private prices for all your "Services"
  - tracker1 9y ago
    Well, plenty of countries manage on VAT, tariff, excise and lots of other taxes... again, it doesn't NEED to be income tax (frankly, I'm not a fan of property taxes, but it's a reasonable approach to local roads). Also, I don't feel that ANYONE should have more than half their income taken in taxes, period... If a government can't manage to function on less than half the combined income of all its' citizens, it shouldn't be doing some of the things it's doing. As to the US, I feel the military should be cut dramatically, and that healthcare really should have included reform to medicare/medicaid and va medical. A co-op NPO would have been a better approach, allowing it as a baseline option to increase competition with private carriers. Also, normalizing the laws between the states should have been a larger priority as well. Right now, inter-state carriers are pretty much non-existent as a direct channel. That doesn't even get into the bullshit passive-aggressive laws regarding "women's health" from the right. Just because I'm against raising taxes without cause doesn't mean I believe there should be no taxes.. and yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing purpose taxes closer to what they're being spent on. The layers of bureaucracy in a general income/vat tax at a national level only feeds systemic corruption, and over-spending.

tracker1 9y ago

They don't have property taxes, vehicle licensing fees, or gasoline taxes?

throwawaymanbot 9y ago
Is this how you would fund the military and healthcare?? with property and gasoline taxes? how amusing. Excessive tax is a burden, fair enough. But "Tax is theft" fetishism is just a lack of the reality of how civilization happens and avoidance of societal responsibility. If you don't want to pay tax you should be micro charged for every single little thing you do, and pay private prices for all your "Services"
- tracker1 9y ago
  Well, plenty of countries manage on VAT, tariff, excise and lots of other taxes... again, it doesn't NEED to be income tax (frankly, I'm not a fan of property taxes, but it's a reasonable approach to local roads). Also, I don't feel that ANYONE should have more than half their income taken in taxes, period... If a government can't manage to function on less than half the combined income of all its' citizens, it shouldn't be doing some of the things it's doing. As to the US, I feel the military should be cut dramatically, and that healthcare really should have included reform to medicare/medicaid and va medical. A co-op NPO would have been a better approach, allowing it as a baseline option to increase competition with private carriers. Also, normalizing the laws between the states should have been a larger priority as well. Right now, inter-state carriers are pretty much non-existent as a direct channel. That doesn't even get into the bullshit passive-aggressive laws regarding "women's health" from the right. Just because I'm against raising taxes without cause doesn't mean I believe there should be no taxes.. and yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing purpose taxes closer to what they're being spent on. The layers of bureaucracy in a general income/vat tax at a national level only feeds systemic corruption, and over-spending.