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It is quite possible that without Schwartz’s help, Trump would not have got to the Oval Office Curious, why is every non-technical article have a reference to

It is quite possible that without Schwartz’s help, Trump would not have got to the Oval Office Curious, why is every non-technical article have a reference to Trump within? It almost seems as if they hate Trump so much, they want to take credit for the man. I think I'm reading about Ghost writing, no, it's about Trump. I think I'm reading about Science, nope, it's about Trump, on and on. Okay, I get it, you think he's the worst thing ever. Would a member of HN's psychology community care to elaborate on why this is?

exolymph 9y ago
You don't need a psychologist. Trump is on many people's minds right now, hence they mention him often. Are you asking why he's on many people's minds?
clock_tower 9y ago
I'm not a psychologist; but as near as I can tell, it's Bush Derangement Syndrome again, only with less logic. Bush established secret courts, secret prisons, and a torture program; Trump tried and failed to ban Muslims from the country, then ate well-done steak and two scoops of ice cream; so of course you're seeing people nostalgic for Bush and violently hostile to Trump. What Trump said on the campaign trail was absolutely appalling, but people need to cool off unless he actually starts delivering on it -- and should figure out how to change the hearts of the large proportion of this country that's delighted by promises of Genghis Khan tactics. (I vividly remember talking with an ethnic Sicilian in Boston who couldn't imagine why an army wouldn't want to shoot enemy medics, so the problem's not unique to Appalachia.)
- thinkfurther 9y ago
  > and should figure out how to change the hearts of the large proportion of this country that's delighted by promises of Genghis Khan tactics As far as I'm concerned they are queued last. The support and empowerment of those who would suffer under their heels is way more interesting to me. Sociopaths pretend to have had a change of heart after they have been disarmed and then I still won't care for their crocodile tears. I won't laugh about them either, I'll simply be friendly to them, as long as they stay disarmed my hands will be open too. Nothing more, nothing less. But as long as the victims are rather ignored in comparison, meh. Not that I disagree though, because I think Trump is a convenient scapegoat, someone to point fingers fingers to. The only really interesting thing about the election for me was the huge grassroots support Bernie Sanders got, and how that was swept under the rug for the benefit of Hillary Clinton of all people. But yeah, Trump's the asshole, let's focus on that now. Gotta keep it tightly framed and bouncing between several equally moronic options. Here's a slashdot comment I bookmarked, because it's the only important takeaway from a lot if things IMHO; as long as this isn't addressed, as long as there are still excuses to not REALLY think critically, it's all window dressing and nauseating. https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10391247&cid=54083067 https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10391247&cid=540830... > Moreover, I'd like to have all the extremist argumentation slapped the fuck down by intellectuals in public. Given the way things are going however, it's as though transparency and public discussion were anathema to those with power to censor. > I mean, it can't possibly be that some jack-ass white supremacist, trash-ass ISIS goon, or wank-ass Hillary Trumponite, were hard to repudiate -- unless your own wack bullshit depends on similar constructions. Then it's really hard without stabbing yourself in the back. I say, don't "figure out a way" to make something palatable to anyone. Seek truth, seek your responsibilities, and act. Be hard on yourself then you can be respectful to others while not taking one iota of their shit.
sp332 9y ago
The order was Tony Blair, Donald Trump, Helmut Kohl, Hillary Clinton. He fits right into that list.

exolymph 9y ago

You don't need a psychologist. Trump is on many people's minds right now, hence they mention him often. Are you asking why he's on many people's minds?

clock_tower 9y ago

I'm not a psychologist; but as near as I can tell, it's Bush Derangement Syndrome again, only with less logic. Bush established secret courts, secret prisons, and a torture program; Trump tried and failed to ban Muslims from the country, then ate well-done steak and two scoops of ice cream; so of course you're seeing people nostalgic for Bush and violently hostile to Trump. What Trump said on the campaign trail was absolutely appalling, but people need to cool off unless he actually starts delivering on it -- and should figure out how to change the hearts of the large proportion of this country that's delighted by promises of Genghis Khan tactics. (I vividly remember talking with an ethnic Sicilian in Boston who couldn't imagine why an army wouldn't want to shoot enemy medics, so the problem's not unique to Appalachia.)

thinkfurther 9y ago
> and should figure out how to change the hearts of the large proportion of this country that's delighted by promises of Genghis Khan tactics As far as I'm concerned they are queued last. The support and empowerment of those who would suffer under their heels is way more interesting to me. Sociopaths pretend to have had a change of heart after they have been disarmed and then I still won't care for their crocodile tears. I won't laugh about them either, I'll simply be friendly to them, as long as they stay disarmed my hands will be open too. Nothing more, nothing less. But as long as the victims are rather ignored in comparison, meh. Not that I disagree though, because I think Trump is a convenient scapegoat, someone to point fingers fingers to. The only really interesting thing about the election for me was the huge grassroots support Bernie Sanders got, and how that was swept under the rug for the benefit of Hillary Clinton of all people. But yeah, Trump's the asshole, let's focus on that now. Gotta keep it tightly framed and bouncing between several equally moronic options. Here's a slashdot comment I bookmarked, because it's the only important takeaway from a lot if things IMHO; as long as this isn't addressed, as long as there are still excuses to not REALLY think critically, it's all window dressing and nauseating. https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10391247&cid=54083067 https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10391247&cid=540830... > Moreover, I'd like to have all the extremist argumentation slapped the fuck down by intellectuals in public. Given the way things are going however, it's as though transparency and public discussion were anathema to those with power to censor. > I mean, it can't possibly be that some jack-ass white supremacist, trash-ass ISIS goon, or wank-ass Hillary Trumponite, were hard to repudiate -- unless your own wack bullshit depends on similar constructions. Then it's really hard without stabbing yourself in the back. I say, don't "figure out a way" to make something palatable to anyone. Seek truth, seek your responsibilities, and act. Be hard on yourself then you can be respectful to others while not taking one iota of their shit.

sp332 9y ago

The order was Tony Blair, Donald Trump, Helmut Kohl, Hillary Clinton. He fits right into that list.