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if the latest hot "internet culture" property to come out of Tumblr is a year-old frog meme then maybe they truly are doomed. or maybe NYMag is clueless and nob

if the latest hot "internet culture" property to come out of Tumblr is a year-old frog meme then maybe they truly are doomed. or maybe NYMag is clueless and nobody on staff uses the web.

TeMPOraL 9y ago
I'd say the latter. Even looking at most of my cow-orkers, who do spend a lot of time using the web, they're still Internet foreigners. Tourists to the web. They go sightseeing, but they don't know the actual culture. So is the case with most of out-of-work people I know. And I imagine so is the case with most of people employed to write about the web. They don't know shit, because they're not part of any on-line community.
- matt4077 9y ago
  The author has a twitter account with 70k tweets, so I think that should qualify him for shit-knowing citizenship in the "on-line" community.
  - intoverflow2 9y ago
    Yet only 6000 followers and very few of his tweets break into double figures of likes... Shouting 70 thousand times into a void doesn't actually make you a participant.
    - smacktoward 9y ago
      The median Twitter user has what, a couple hundred followers? They certainly don't have 6,000. An account with that many isn't hugely famous, but it's certainly doing better than most.
      - deleted 9y ago
        [deleted]
      - kevin_thibedeau 9y ago
        That's assuming they weren't paid for. Someone narcissistic enough to blast out 70K tweets is likely to pursue all avenues to inflate their self-worth.
    - rtpg 9y ago
      I think he spotted you https://twitter.com/bafeldman/status/880405704510713857 https://twitter.com/bafeldman/status/880405704510713857
    - reitanqild 9y ago
      Also isn't twitter much more about celebrity and brand worship than about internet culture? Or am I showing off my lack of understanding of Twitter and/or Internet culture?
      - TillE 9y ago
        No, not at all. Though I think that's what most of HN believes, strangely. Everyone fucking hates this term, but Google "Weird Twitter" for one of Twitter's many significant organic communities.
        reitanqild 9y ago
        Though I think that's what most of HN believes, strangely. Weird how different we perceive things: For me I always thought HN adored twitter and only I and a few others cried out loud against what I perceived as the naked emperor. I try to be open to see where I'm wrong though and I might be about to change my rating to same rating as Mac OS: "probably great but doesn't work for me."
      - AnOscelot 9y ago
        No offense, but you're showing off your lack of understanding. Some people do use Twitter to tweet at their fave celebrities, but that seems to be more of a minority use case. It is useful to tweet directly at brands, especially when you need product support, but again, it's a minority of uses. In my circles, there's Weird Twitter for creativity. Political Twitter, which is now a dominant form of medium-length blogging where the punditry is broken up into 140 character paragraphs. Art Twitter sending out all sorts of photos and paintings. Cute Twitter for DogRates and other forms of reporting on fuzzy things. Twitter is still good for breaking news, and for on-the-spot reporting. Even great for weather. I live in a stormy part of the country, and hitting #kswx can be good on bad nights for getting reports from the people around me. And, of course, it's the premier way for the leader of the free world to spit his thoughts directly at the public. They may not have found any way to make money, but Twitter is a core part of internet culture. It's like Instagram, Reddit, Tumblr, etc., that it's so big, it can't be pinned down to just one aspect or another.
    - catenthusiast 9y ago
      I’m a long-time Brian Feldman fan and I can assure you he has a vast knowledge of internet culture. He wrote one of the most comprehensive pieces on Minion memes.
  - ruleabidinguser 9y ago
    The fact that you think this means anything says it all
- watwut 9y ago
  There is no such thing as actual internet culture, just as there is no such thing as single human culture. Different communities have different cultures and none of them is any less real.
zichy 9y ago
Nobody is clueless for supposedly not knowing every Tumblr meme out there. If you have anything worthwhile to say, please refer to the actual content of this article.
- jameskegel 9y ago
  His comment was pertinent; please, take about 20% off her, there.
raverbashing 9y ago
Thankfully that did not originate there. Tumblr is notorious for being left-leaning (and may I add, sometimes it's excessive) (except for the part where it's filled with scantly-clad people)
sotojuan 9y ago
OK, gonna put my internet nerd hat on. That frog has been around 2008, when a 4chan user uploaded part of a 2005 comic by Matt Furie[1]. Then it was photoshopped around to its various moods and forms and a couple of years ago hit the mainstream. [1] http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1148 http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1148
- andyourbore 9y ago
  To put on my own nerd hat, the author is referencing "dat boi" as in "oh shit here come dat boi!" — not Pepe. Both are frog-related memes, but dat boi is much more recent and did originate on Tumblr, even if its final form may have actually come into fruition on Facebook — though Know Your Meme can be wildly inaccurate at times. [1] http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/dat-boi http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/dat-boi
  - sotojuan 9y ago
    Ah got it, now I'm a bit embarrassed. I didn't even know that existed until a few weeks ago (a sign that I'm getting old?). Thanks for the clarification.
korzun 9y ago
Why is it relevant what meme came out from Tumblr? If we are doing meme based valuations, then 4chan is a trillion dollar company.
thrillgore 9y ago
I've never used Tumblr as a platform for memery (4chan seems more suited) but there are some great blogs with amazing art, and other cool subject matter (Fuck Yeah Brutalism immediately comes to mind).
- danbolt 9y ago
  Agreed! Tumblr certain has a more casual feeling in some of its circles, but every once in a while you find some great blogs that are taking advantage of tumblr's accessibility to put out nice content.

if the latest hot "internet culture" property to come out of Tumblr is a year-old frog meme then maybe they truly are doomed. or maybe NYMag is clueless and nobody on staff uses the web.

TeMPOraL 9y ago

I'd say the latter. Even looking at most of my cow-orkers, who do spend a lot of time using the web, they're still Internet foreigners. Tourists to the web. They go sightseeing, but they don't know the actual culture. So is the case with most of out-of-work people I know. And I imagine so is the case with most of people employed to write about the web. They don't know shit, because they're not part of any on-line community.

matt4077 9y ago
The author has a twitter account with 70k tweets, so I think that should qualify him for shit-knowing citizenship in the "on-line" community.
- intoverflow2 9y ago
  Yet only 6000 followers and very few of his tweets break into double figures of likes... Shouting 70 thousand times into a void doesn't actually make you a participant.
  - smacktoward 9y ago
    The median Twitter user has what, a couple hundred followers? They certainly don't have 6,000. An account with that many isn't hugely famous, but it's certainly doing better than most.
    - deleted 9y ago
      [deleted]
    - kevin_thibedeau 9y ago
      That's assuming they weren't paid for. Someone narcissistic enough to blast out 70K tweets is likely to pursue all avenues to inflate their self-worth.
  - rtpg 9y ago
    I think he spotted you https://twitter.com/bafeldman/status/880405704510713857 https://twitter.com/bafeldman/status/880405704510713857
  - reitanqild 9y ago
    Also isn't twitter much more about celebrity and brand worship than about internet culture? Or am I showing off my lack of understanding of Twitter and/or Internet culture?
    - TillE 9y ago
      No, not at all. Though I think that's what most of HN believes, strangely. Everyone fucking hates this term, but Google "Weird Twitter" for one of Twitter's many significant organic communities.
      - reitanqild 9y ago
        Though I think that's what most of HN believes, strangely. Weird how different we perceive things: For me I always thought HN adored twitter and only I and a few others cried out loud against what I perceived as the naked emperor. I try to be open to see where I'm wrong though and I might be about to change my rating to same rating as Mac OS: "probably great but doesn't work for me."
    - AnOscelot 9y ago
      No offense, but you're showing off your lack of understanding. Some people do use Twitter to tweet at their fave celebrities, but that seems to be more of a minority use case. It is useful to tweet directly at brands, especially when you need product support, but again, it's a minority of uses. In my circles, there's Weird Twitter for creativity. Political Twitter, which is now a dominant form of medium-length blogging where the punditry is broken up into 140 character paragraphs. Art Twitter sending out all sorts of photos and paintings. Cute Twitter for DogRates and other forms of reporting on fuzzy things. Twitter is still good for breaking news, and for on-the-spot reporting. Even great for weather. I live in a stormy part of the country, and hitting #kswx can be good on bad nights for getting reports from the people around me. And, of course, it's the premier way for the leader of the free world to spit his thoughts directly at the public. They may not have found any way to make money, but Twitter is a core part of internet culture. It's like Instagram, Reddit, Tumblr, etc., that it's so big, it can't be pinned down to just one aspect or another.
  - catenthusiast 9y ago
    I’m a long-time Brian Feldman fan and I can assure you he has a vast knowledge of internet culture. He wrote one of the most comprehensive pieces on Minion memes.
- ruleabidinguser 9y ago
  The fact that you think this means anything says it all
watwut 9y ago
There is no such thing as actual internet culture, just as there is no such thing as single human culture. Different communities have different cultures and none of them is any less real.

zichy 9y ago

Nobody is clueless for supposedly not knowing every Tumblr meme out there. If you have anything worthwhile to say, please refer to the actual content of this article.

jameskegel 9y ago
His comment was pertinent; please, take about 20% off her, there.

raverbashing 9y ago

Thankfully that did not originate there. Tumblr is notorious for being left-leaning (and may I add, sometimes it's excessive) (except for the part where it's filled with scantly-clad people)

sotojuan 9y ago

OK, gonna put my internet nerd hat on. That frog has been around 2008, when a 4chan user uploaded part of a 2005 comic by Matt Furie[1]. Then it was photoshopped around to its various moods and forms and a couple of years ago hit the mainstream. [1] http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1148 http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1148

andyourbore 9y ago
To put on my own nerd hat, the author is referencing "dat boi" as in "oh shit here come dat boi!" — not Pepe. Both are frog-related memes, but dat boi is much more recent and did originate on Tumblr, even if its final form may have actually come into fruition on Facebook — though Know Your Meme can be wildly inaccurate at times. [1] http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/dat-boi http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/dat-boi
- sotojuan 9y ago
  Ah got it, now I'm a bit embarrassed. I didn't even know that existed until a few weeks ago (a sign that I'm getting old?). Thanks for the clarification.

korzun 9y ago

Why is it relevant what meme came out from Tumblr? If we are doing meme based valuations, then 4chan is a trillion dollar company.

thrillgore 9y ago

I've never used Tumblr as a platform for memery (4chan seems more suited) but there are some great blogs with amazing art, and other cool subject matter (Fuck Yeah Brutalism immediately comes to mind).

danbolt 9y ago
Agreed! Tumblr certain has a more casual feeling in some of its circles, but every once in a while you find some great blogs that are taking advantage of tumblr's accessibility to put out nice content.