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The boundary between "business" as covered by B-1 visas and "work" can be fuzzy. If you are employed by a US company and you get paid by said company while in

by YZF 9y ago

The boundary between "business" as covered by B-1 visas and "work" can be fuzzy. If you are employed by a US company and you get paid by said company while in the US (i.e. you're not on vacation) then your trip can be interpreted as working in the US. It's not clear which Mozilla entity is Daniel's employer but I've seen similar situations. Companies that have a lot of international employees traveling to the US typically know what sort of papers or preparations need to happen to reduce the chance of these things. Another crazy example, if you own a house in the US but you're not permitted to work there, fixing your own house counts as work and could get you deported banned from entry. You have to hire someone else to fix it. Borders are stupid... And the US has been this way basically for ever. If anything I think they got a little better vs. e.g. 10 or 20 years ago. I used to work for a Canadian company that did a lot of business in the US and there was some time period (~15 years ago) where any company employee attempting to travel to the US had a lot of difficulty because those guys got it into their heads that the company was doing something funny. You can run into trouble in various other places in the world as well.

ubernostrum 9y ago
Back when I worked for Mozilla, I often had to travel to the Toronto office for team meetings (most of the team I was on was remote). I always had to carry a letter to give to CBSA at the Canadian border, explaining the difference between Mozilla US and Mozilla Canada, that I was an employee of Mozilla US and would not be paid by Mozilla Canada, that I would not do any work for Mozilla Canada, and in fact (I loved this bit) that I would not be "working" (whatever that legal term meant) at all while in Canada, only attending meetings. We used to joke that we couldn't fix bugs while at those gatherings, since that would be work and put us in violation of what the letter said.

by YZF 9y ago

ubernostrum 9y ago

Back when I worked for Mozilla, I often had to travel to the Toronto office for team meetings (most of the team I was on was remote). I always had to carry a letter to give to CBSA at the Canadian border, explaining the difference between Mozilla US and Mozilla Canada, that I was an employee of Mozilla US and would not be paid by Mozilla Canada, that I would not do any work for Mozilla Canada, and in fact (I loved this bit) that I would not be "working" (whatever that legal term meant) at all while in Canada, only attending meetings. We used to joke that we couldn't fix bugs while at those gatherings, since that would be work and put us in violation of what the letter said.