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Subscription services like Netflix are cheap. Vastly cheaper than Safari. Furthermore, Netflix allows two viewing streams simultaneously, 24 hours a day, and al
by SomeHacker44 9y ago
Subscription services like Netflix are cheap. Vastly cheaper than Safari. Furthermore, Netflix allows two viewing streams simultaneously, 24 hours a day, and all five members of my household have their own profiles. We almost certainly spend more hours as a family on Netflix than we do reading O'Reilly books (especially since it's mostly just me who does that, and sometimes my son when we're doing programming together).
I'm not spending $399/year. Maybe if it were $8/month like I spend on Netflix and Crunchyroll or Amazon Prime (paid annually), sure. (Granted, this household uses Prime for delivery and ignore their streaming stuff mostly.)
Goodbye O'Reilly. Not only will I not buy Safari, I will not buy any O'Reilly product ever again.
- tonyedgecombe 9y agoThe economics are different, Safari is a niche product and will always be more expensive than something aimed at the general consumer.
- chris_wot 9y agoWell, yes. And thus why this will fail. I want to read O'Reilly books as PDFs. Properly typeset PDFs. And I don't want to buy from anyone other than O'Reilly. And I tried Safari, but it's not the same as reading their books as PDFs.
- gregjwild 9y agoHere at Manning we plan to keep selling beautifully typeset .PDFs & other formats for many years to come :)
- MonkeyIsNull 9y agoThanks - it's the only format that I can read code in. I will be throwing more moola your way because of this.
- chris_wot 9y agoI LOVE Manning! You are amazing and I will keep spending my hard earned money on your books. I bought your Spring books, and a few others. Next time I want to buy a book, I'll go straight to Manning and not O'Reilly.
- j_s 9y agoHow different are the operating costs? What is cost-per-user? Is the smaller audience just an excuse to squeeze for more net revenue?
- tonyedgecombe 9y agoFrom the businesses perspective what it costs doesn't matter (as long as they cover their costs), it's about what value the customer perceives and hence how much they are willing to pay.
- j_s 9y agoExactly! I didn't want to give Safari some sort of a "niche market" pass on a high price without some sort of breakdown on their operating costs (which I don't think will ever see the light of day).