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And safe is a relative term. something might be safe ingested in trace amounts, or with contact to the skin. But drinking a whole glass of it? that is a differe

And safe is a relative term. something might be safe ingested in trace amounts, or with contact to the skin. But drinking a whole glass of it? that is a different story.

thinkfurther 9y ago
Then don't say a whole glass of it would be perfectly safe.
- everdayimhustln 9y ago
  NO, wrong again. They boldly claimed with a direct, verbatim quote "You can drink a whole quart of it and it won't hurt you." and then refused to drink it when offered.
  - saghm 9y ago
    I don't think GP is distrusting m disagreeing with you; it sounds to me like they're saying "if your point is that it's safe in trace amounts but not for drinking a whole glass, you shouldn't be offering to drink a whole glass"
saalweachter 9y ago
The poison is in the dose; the LD50 for glyphosate is in the neighborhood of 5 g / kg, which amounts to around a quarter liter of pure glyphosate for a 50kg subject. You want to stay orders of magnitude below the LD50, for obvious reasons. "How much can you safely drink?" depends heavily on the concentration. A cup of pure, or even the most concentrated form the sell in stores, might do it. Or might not. Once you dilute it for application - usually gallons of water to the tablespoon of concentrate - a cup becomes significantly less threatening.
- legulere 9y ago
  The problem with that approach is that it is just about acute lethality and does not consider long-term effects from prolonged exposure that are hard to measure. Further it ignores interactions with other chemicals that are also in use, something that we know is pretty common from medications. Especially with endocrine disruptors there is also the effect that several chemicals might work in the same direction, where a safe dose of one chemical might be harmless but safe doses of 10 chemicals combined might not be safe anymore.
  - saalweachter 9y ago
    Well, no, but when the question is "will you drink a cup of this?" a good question is "will this kill me outright?"
everdayimhustln 9y ago
Watch the video! He claims "You can drink a whole quart of it [RoundUp] and it won't hurt you." (It's ambiguous whether reporter means "glyphosate" to mean "RoundUp" product as to avoid advertising a brand name or the compound by itself.)
- DanBC 9y ago
  Roundup contains mroe than glyphosate. You probably shouldn't drink a quart[1] of glyphosate, but you definitely should not drink a quart of roundup. [1] what the fuck is a quart?

And safe is a relative term. something might be safe ingested in trace amounts, or with contact to the skin. But drinking a whole glass of it? that is a different story.

thinkfurther 9y ago

Then don't say a whole glass of it would be perfectly safe.

everdayimhustln 9y ago
NO, wrong again. They boldly claimed with a direct, verbatim quote "You can drink a whole quart of it and it won't hurt you." and then refused to drink it when offered.
- saghm 9y ago
  I don't think GP is distrusting m disagreeing with you; it sounds to me like they're saying "if your point is that it's safe in trace amounts but not for drinking a whole glass, you shouldn't be offering to drink a whole glass"

saalweachter 9y ago

The poison is in the dose; the LD50 for glyphosate is in the neighborhood of 5 g / kg, which amounts to around a quarter liter of pure glyphosate for a 50kg subject. You want to stay orders of magnitude below the LD50, for obvious reasons. "How much can you safely drink?" depends heavily on the concentration. A cup of pure, or even the most concentrated form the sell in stores, might do it. Or might not. Once you dilute it for application - usually gallons of water to the tablespoon of concentrate - a cup becomes significantly less threatening.

legulere 9y ago
The problem with that approach is that it is just about acute lethality and does not consider long-term effects from prolonged exposure that are hard to measure. Further it ignores interactions with other chemicals that are also in use, something that we know is pretty common from medications. Especially with endocrine disruptors there is also the effect that several chemicals might work in the same direction, where a safe dose of one chemical might be harmless but safe doses of 10 chemicals combined might not be safe anymore.
- saalweachter 9y ago
  Well, no, but when the question is "will you drink a cup of this?" a good question is "will this kill me outright?"

everdayimhustln 9y ago

Watch the video! He claims "You can drink a whole quart of it [RoundUp] and it won't hurt you." (It's ambiguous whether reporter means "glyphosate" to mean "RoundUp" product as to avoid advertising a brand name or the compound by itself.)

DanBC 9y ago
Roundup contains mroe than glyphosate. You probably shouldn't drink a quart[1] of glyphosate, but you definitely should not drink a quart of roundup. [1] what the fuck is a quart?