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A user only needs to create a transaction if they upload something. The 175k Facebook requests per second that they compare to is mostly just people looking at

A user only needs to create a transaction if they upload something. The 175k Facebook requests per second that they compare to is mostly just people looking at stuff, which wouldn't require a transaction.

needz 9y ago
What about logging?
- benchaney 9y ago
  Decentralized apps are structured very differently than centralized apps. It doesn't really make sense to talk about about logging in that way for a decentralized app.
deegles 9y ago
Nope, that's a low end estimate of writes. "Every 60 seconds on Facebook: 510,000 comments are posted, 293,000 statuses are updated, and 136,000 photos are uploaded." https://zephoria.com/top-15-valuable-facebook-statistics/amp/ https://zephoria.com/top-15-valuable-facebook-statistics/amp...
- benchaney 9y ago
  (510000 + 293000 + 136000) / 60 is about 15.5k, so slightly less than the estimate in this article, although you are right that I was overstating the amount of traffic that is read only.
  - deegles 9y ago
    Yes, but that's not counting things like post likes, FB Messenger, check-ins, account creations, profile edits, logging and statistics, etc etc. I wouldn't be surprised if they're in the millions of writes per second.
    - deleted 9y ago
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    - ndr 9y ago
      In a recent submission [0] they give some stats about their abuse system and at ~47:35 they mention this system gets 1M requests per seconds, which doesn't have to precisely coincide with write volume but suggests it's in the right ballpark. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14624802 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14624802 [1] http://events.techcast.com/bigtechday10/Garmisch-1345/ http://events.techcast.com/bigtechday10/Garmisch-1345/
- cdetrio 9y ago
  Most of those writes don't need to be serialized transactions. Other p2p data structures like CRDTs and torrents are sufficient for posting comments and uploading photos; see the decentralized social network Patchwork[1] (based on scuttlebutt[2]). The blockchain itself will only be needed for certain types of transactions, for instance those around identity (e.g. name registration), and reputation/spam prevention (forum moderators). 1. https://github.com/ssbc/patchwork https://github.com/ssbc/patchwork 2. https://github.com/dominictarr/scuttlebutt https://github.com/dominictarr/scuttlebutt

needz 9y ago

What about logging?

benchaney 9y ago
Decentralized apps are structured very differently than centralized apps. It doesn't really make sense to talk about about logging in that way for a decentralized app.

deegles 9y ago

Nope, that's a low end estimate of writes. "Every 60 seconds on Facebook: 510,000 comments are posted, 293,000 statuses are updated, and 136,000 photos are uploaded." https://zephoria.com/top-15-valuable-facebook-statistics/amp/ https://zephoria.com/top-15-valuable-facebook-statistics/amp...

benchaney 9y ago
(510000 + 293000 + 136000) / 60 is about 15.5k, so slightly less than the estimate in this article, although you are right that I was overstating the amount of traffic that is read only.
- deegles 9y ago
  Yes, but that's not counting things like post likes, FB Messenger, check-ins, account creations, profile edits, logging and statistics, etc etc. I wouldn't be surprised if they're in the millions of writes per second.
  - deleted 9y ago
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  - ndr 9y ago
    In a recent submission [0] they give some stats about their abuse system and at ~47:35 they mention this system gets 1M requests per seconds, which doesn't have to precisely coincide with write volume but suggests it's in the right ballpark. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14624802 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14624802 [1] http://events.techcast.com/bigtechday10/Garmisch-1345/ http://events.techcast.com/bigtechday10/Garmisch-1345/
cdetrio 9y ago
Most of those writes don't need to be serialized transactions. Other p2p data structures like CRDTs and torrents are sufficient for posting comments and uploading photos; see the decentralized social network Patchwork[1] (based on scuttlebutt[2]). The blockchain itself will only be needed for certain types of transactions, for instance those around identity (e.g. name registration), and reputation/spam prevention (forum moderators). 1. https://github.com/ssbc/patchwork https://github.com/ssbc/patchwork 2. https://github.com/dominictarr/scuttlebutt https://github.com/dominictarr/scuttlebutt