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It's very far from being able to scale to where it needs to. I think it remains to be seen if the system can be transitioned to a highly scalable one, it seems

It's very far from being able to scale to where it needs to. I think it remains to be seen if the system can be transitioned to a highly scalable one, it seems to me that we need to think from the ground up how to achieve the scale necessary. It's just a really really hard problem, it's not an afterthought, or a secondary goal.

drcode 9y ago
well... Vitalik so far seems pretty confident a sharding system is feasible, and I would be loath to bet against Vitalik. Certainly he scares me a bit at this point because he's already basically stated that he believes it's impossible to implement blockchain sharding without erasure coding, so it certainly doesn't look like sharding is going to be a simple undertaking. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasure_code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasure_code
- woah 9y ago
  Vitalik's been talking about a sharding system around the corner for years now. The team working on it seems to be more interested in the theory than the practice of sharding. Additionally, any sharding design will probably have to break some existing assumptions and contracts, making it a really hard fork. I wouldn't be surprised if something else comes along offering a somewhat ethereum-compatible system with sharding for those who are working on real applications and need it.
  - oillio 9y ago
    Agreed. Both PoS and Sharding are difficult problems that are still very experimental. The fact that they need to support backwards compatibility just compounds the difficulty. Then add the difficulty of deploying these new concepts on a system worth tens of billions of dollars... I do not envy them.
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  - chejazi 9y ago
    > something else comes along offering a somewhat ethereum-compatible system Dfinity comes to mind (Solidity contracts run on Dfinity) https://dfinity.network https://dfinity.network
  - naasking 9y ago
    > The team working on it seems to be more interested in the theory than the practice of sharding As it should be for something that will need to be unbreakable and ultra-reliable. I detect a tone of distaste for theory in your phrasing, which isn't promising.

drcode 9y ago

well... Vitalik so far seems pretty confident a sharding system is feasible, and I would be loath to bet against Vitalik. Certainly he scares me a bit at this point because he's already basically stated that he believes it's impossible to implement blockchain sharding without erasure coding, so it certainly doesn't look like sharding is going to be a simple undertaking. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasure_code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasure_code

woah 9y ago
Vitalik's been talking about a sharding system around the corner for years now. The team working on it seems to be more interested in the theory than the practice of sharding. Additionally, any sharding design will probably have to break some existing assumptions and contracts, making it a really hard fork. I wouldn't be surprised if something else comes along offering a somewhat ethereum-compatible system with sharding for those who are working on real applications and need it.
- oillio 9y ago
  Agreed. Both PoS and Sharding are difficult problems that are still very experimental. The fact that they need to support backwards compatibility just compounds the difficulty. Then add the difficulty of deploying these new concepts on a system worth tens of billions of dollars... I do not envy them.
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- chejazi 9y ago
  > something else comes along offering a somewhat ethereum-compatible system Dfinity comes to mind (Solidity contracts run on Dfinity) https://dfinity.network https://dfinity.network
- naasking 9y ago
  > The team working on it seems to be more interested in the theory than the practice of sharding As it should be for something that will need to be unbreakable and ultra-reliable. I detect a tone of distaste for theory in your phrasing, which isn't promising.