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> So he's very clearly biased toward proving minimum wage increase's success. You may not have meant it this way, but that sentence implies you have already di
by tobtoh 9y ago
> So he's very clearly biased toward proving minimum wage increase's success.
You may not have meant it this way, but that sentence implies you have already dismissed any point he makes purely based on what he believes in. Without any evidence, you've implied that any conclusions the author makes are automatically devalued because he will be incapable to undertaking objective research.
Would you write a similar sentence about say a medical researcher? 'Researcher is a member of the medical industry and is very clearly biased toward proving vaccines are safe and necessary'.
(Note: I think it's very important to be aware of influences and biases in hearing opinions - an important part of critical evaluation. Your comment does that for the most part ... it's just the last sentence I have an objection to)
- arohner 9y agoMedicine and vaccines are science, socialism is ideology.
- wavefunction 9y agoSure but the alternatives to socialism are also ideologies.
- vixen99 9y agoFree trade or aspirations to such is/are not an ideology. i.e., "The body of ideas reflecting the social needs and aspirations of an individual, group, class, or culture. or "A set of doctrines or beliefs that form the basis of a political, economic, or other system". Humans trade don't need theoretical underpinning to trade goods and services with each other. They have done it since the dawn of time. Even monkeys do it. I'll scratch yours if you'll scratch mine. And indeed it percolates down to the personal as well, as Eric Berne noted in Games People Play.
- daenz 9y ago>Would you write a similar sentence about say a medical researcher? How about "Anti-abortion activist doctor releases study showing that abortion in unhealthy." Are you telling me you wouldn't place the study under extreme scrutiny? When someone shows their ideological bias, and it happens to be extreme (yes, socialism is extreme), and then they also do science in the same field, it is absolutely appropriate to make their biases known and subject them to extra scrutiny. EDIT>> Just saw your note that you agree about raising awareness to biases. It sounds like we agree on that.
- ori_b 9y agoThis is a very different situation. There is still a huge amount of debate about the actual effects of minimum wage increases. This is not the case for vaccines any more. At this point, the evidence for vaccines is strong enough that pro-vaccine should be the default position. This is not (yet) the case for raising the minimum wage. As a result, ideological biases are important to flag, and studies possibly affected by bias need to be replicated and cross checked.
- apexalpha 9y ago>There is still a huge amount of debate about the actual effects of minimum wage increases. There is? I would seem that the effects could simply be drawn from real world results in any other developed nation.
- ori_b 9y agoYou mean the comparisons showing the USA had one of the lowest unemployment rates?